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what else can i add i have some days where its a good flight then PFE plays up again. i never get clearance to descend

So what are you doing different when you have a problem?

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Carry on as normal i suppose hope it doesn't happen again. Or can you help please?

Well if you're using the same flight plan and the same ADV file your flight WILL be the same unless YOU the pilot do something different/wrong. PFE is an ATC simulator. It can't help you fly correctly. If ATC tell you to climb to XXX then you must do so. If your flight plan is to pass via AA,BB,CC then you must do so. PFE is not there to correct you.

This is not human error atall i i was told to climb to my cruise ALT fl380 so i did and acknowledged it back, told to contact numerous centres on the way finally got into london told to contact london centre approached my T/D on my 737 FMC calculations, no ATC descend instructions so i left it for a few mins passed my T/D still nothing 5 mins later still nothing. I'm doing everything right how it should be done but PFE likes to play up doesn't it?

I really don't know what your getting at. This computer atc messed up once again like everything else for flight simulator. I would be taking some responsibility to this but everything on my half was fine a good fp makes a good flight which i done! I can even send you my logs and you can see for yourself.

Sure, send me the logs and I'll tell you what's going on (hopefully)

Thanks for the logs, which I've just spent the past half-hour perusing.

You FP:-

00 - EDDF - 364
01 - BIBTI - 25000
02 - BIBTI - 31000
03 - BIBTI - 31000
04 - EVOSA - 38000
05 - EVOSA - 38000
06 - NIK - 38000
07 - LUMEN - 38000
08 - BULAM - 38000
09 - RAPIX - 38000
10 - TEBRA - 38000
11 - KOPUL - 38000
12 - GILDA - 38000
13 - GILDA - 38000
14 - LAM - 35000
15 - WELIN - 24000
16 - WELIN - 24000
17 - TIMPO - 18000
18 - ELVOS - 14000
19 - TNT - 7000
20 - EGCC - 7000
21 - EGCC - 257

Everything was going just fine until you reached KOPUL and then YOU decided to descend... WITHOUT instructions from ATC.

You got to approximately 35 miles from GILDA and then started flying away from it and that's how you continued. When finally handed off to London Control you were at flight level 135 but PFE knew you should have been at FL 380. PFE was also waiting for you to fly to GILDA but by this time you were about 150 miles away. All in all you did a really good job of confusing PFE.

If you don't follow your FP PFE will NOT work correctly. It's a reactive process... PFE waits for you to reach X and then reacts with Y. Simple!

driver170 wrote:

what else can i add i have some days where its a good flight then PFE plays up again. i never get clearance to descend

What did you set your plane's specs in PF2000 settings?

Hi thanks david but i stayed on course all the way to the end of my fp i didn't come of course? also i passed my TOD but got no clearance? i pressed 1 to get a response from london tower and also requested vectors nearer the airport.