OnCourse Software

Been using FDC with FS9 for years, but now I've recently jumped over to FSX, hoping to stay.

Oddly, I have never had a problem with FDC like the one I am now experiencing.

I cannot connect FDC to ANY of the aircraft in FSX. Default or third party.

The error is "The aircraft selected in FS does NOT match the one selected in FDC because their flap detentes are different! The panel you are using has 0 flap positions but FDC is configured to
use 5. Please select another aircraft in FS, or another configuration in FDC, then try "connect" again to continue".

So I am running FDC with FSX on the same machine
Windows 7 - 64 bit.
I have the LATEST version of FSUIPC installed and its working. V 4.86 - FSX Version.

The aircraft are various, Overland, default, Abacus, they are NOT AI aircraft.

They all worked in FS9.

I completely understand the error message and what it means, but I can't choose any aircraft, they all show flap settings of 0.
I checked the panel configs, they all have flap settings and flap information.

I have read some posts about the problem, but there isnt much. These are definitely not AI aircraft, but is there some problem with the panel that prohibits FDC from recognizing flap positions?

This is weird. Any suggestion would be helpful. Uninstalled, reinstalled the program. Same problems, FDC will not connect to any aircraft, I keep getting the same message.

John

BTW , running FDC with version 3.14.0. I thought that was the latest, but I'm reading here about version 3.7?

Hi,

don't kwow where you installed FDC and FSX :

first thing is to NOT install FSX and FDC in the program files folder, instead install it in C/D/E... FSX and C/D/E... FDC

They're both installed to the Program Files folders, perhaps for another install, I'll try them outside of that, but not going back now. I know the age old argument about the Program Files folders, and you could very well be right, but I don't believe that its related.

Interestingly,

I have now had some success this morning, and hopefully this will help for anyone else who struggles with this.

After repeatedly trying various settings, I think I may have stumbled on something. For an A300 I have installed, I had to go into FDC, choose "select aircraft" and then choose the Aircraft setting and checklist pulldowns - in this case choosing both the CLS A330 from the aircraft pulldown and the A330-300 from the checklist pulldown worked! I connected FDC with the aircraft and it appears to work okay, not getting the same message. So maybe its a case of making sure both pulldowns match. In the past, I found that choosing the aircraft automatically brought up the right checklist. But this may not work for FSX, I may manually have to select the right aircraft AND checklist.

So advice I can provide so far, is to manipulate/massage the aircraft and checklist pulldowns and keep trying until you have a successful match.

Thanks for the reply, I do appreciate your help.

John

3.14 is the latest version and of you install into the program files folder you WILL have issues, period!

Sent from my Dumbphone

Hi John,

all I can say is that after installing FSX/FDC/PFE out of the program folder, most of the problems are gone

the installers are made for Windows XP and Vista/W7 have there program folder protected

If everone would install there programs outside the program folder 90% of the problems here would have disappeared

Guys, I understand you, and I understand the XP/Vista installation/access problems but there are compatibility and privilege adjustments that can be made at the program level for each program, its really not complicated. Its also not complicated to install outside of the program files folder, I hear you. I still make the small changes with all of my programs and I really have had no issues, FS9 or FSX.

This appears to be related to the aircraft and checklist working hand in hand within FDC. Going through each of my aircraft, once I chose the appropriate aircraft WITH the appropriate checklist, I never got the same message again, the problem is solved. I never saw this problem when I ran the program with FS9, but I did have some problems with the MD-11. I'm not sure why the message indicates there are zero detentes when the aircraft clearly do have them.

Oddly, it will not work with the MD-11 since there appears to be no aircraft checklists with 7 flap detentes. Admittedly, I didnt go through each and every checklist, it gets a bit tedious after a while. I may have missed one, so I may spend some more time on it later.

At any rate, if anyone else has the problem, I've found the key is to make sure the aircraft and the checklist match correctly. Sometimes you have to keep working a checklist until you find a match with the aircraft.

Again, thanks for your help.

JH

Their is a profile for MD11 either PMDG or Skysim's version,both of which i have done...

Thanks DAve, both are included in the latest DATA information that you can add to FDC, I do see both profiles. But somehow, that information is not aligned with the checklists, because I keep getting the message posted above when I try to marry the MD-11 aircraft and checklist profiles.

Any suggestions (short of installing the program outside of Program Files)?

Will need to see the aircraft.cfg please so i can see what the problem is..

[General]
visual_damage=0 // 0=off, 1=on
atc_type=Boeing
atc_model=MD11
editable=0
performance=Cruise Speed\t 473kt\nMaximum Range\t6,821 nm\nService Ceiling\t32,400 ft\nMax Takeoff Weight\t602,555 lb\nSeating\t\t270 to 405\nCargo Capacity\t3,552 CU ft\n
Category=airplane

[WEIGHT_AND_BALANCE]
max_gross_weight=602555 // (pounds)
empty_weight=286965 // (pounds)

reference_datum_position=0, 0, 0 // (feet) distance from FlightSim Reference position: (1/4 chord, centerline, waterline)
empty_weight_CG_position=0, 0, 0 // (feet) longitudinal, lateral, vertical distance from specified datum

max_number_of_stations=50

station_load.0= 2376, 0, 0, 1.75, Crew
station_load.1= 17300, 0, 0, 1.75, Cargo
station_load.2= 3168, 0, 0, 0.00, Farst
station_load.3= 7524, 0, 0, 0.00, Business
station_load.4= 26136, 0, 0, 0.00, Economy

;Moments of Inertia
empty_weight_pitch_MOI= 9800414.000
empty_weight_roll_MOI= 5028421.000
empty_weight_yaw_MOI= 15308572.000
empty_weight_coupled_MOI= 0.000
CG_forward_limit= 0.000
CG_aft_limit= 1.000

[flight_tuning]
cruise_lift_scalar=1.55
parasite_drag_scalar=1.0
induced_drag_scalar=1.0
elevator_effectiveness=1.08
aileron_effectiveness=1.0
rudder_effectiveness=1.0
pitch_stability=1.0
roll_stability=1.0
yaw_stability=1.0
elevator_trim_effectiveness=1.0
aileron_trim_effectiveness=1.0
rudder_trim_effectiveness=1.0

[GeneralEngineData]
engine_type=1 //0=Piston, 1=Jet, 2=None, 3=Helo-Turbine, 4=Rocket, 5=Turboprop
Engine.0= 10.2, -26.6, -8.4 //(feet) longitudinal, lateral, vertical distance from reference datum
Engine.1=-87.5, 0.0, 14.4 //(feet) longitudinal, lateral, vertical distance from reference datum
Engine.2= 10.2, 26.6, -8.4 //(feet) longitudinal, lateral, vertical distance from reference datum
fuel_flow_scalar=1.00 //Scalar for fuel flow efficiency
min_throttle_limit=-0.310000

[TurbineEngineData]
fuel_flow_gain=0.00200 //Gain on fuel flow
inlet_area=64.0 //Square Feet, engine nacelle inlet area
rated_N2_rpm=29920 //RPM, second stage compressor rated value
static_thrust=64500 //Lbs, max rated static thrust at Sea Level
afterburner_available=0 //Afterburner available?
reverser_available=1 //Thrust reverser available?

[jet_engine]
thrust_scalar=0.9

[electrical]
;BusType, MaxAmpLoad, MinVoltage BusTypes:0=MainBus,1=AvionicsBus,2=BatteryBus,3=HotBatteryBus,4-7=Generator/AlternatorBus(1-4)
flap_motor=0, 5 , 17.0
gear_motor=0, 5 , 17.0
autopilot=0, 5 , 17.0
avionics_bus=0, 10, 17.0
avionics=1, 5 , 17.0
pitot_heat=0, 2 , 17.0
additional_system=0, 20, 17.0
marker_beacon=1, 2 , 17.0
gear_warning=0, 2 , 17.0
fuel_pump=0, 5 , 17.0
starter1=0, 20, 17.0
light_nav=0, 5 , 17.0
light_beacon=0, 5 , 17.0
light_landing=0, 5 , 17.0
light_taxi=0, 5 , 17.0
light_strobe=0, 5 , 17.0
light_panel=0, 5 , 17.0

//0 Class <0=none,1=wheel, 2=scrape, 3=float>
//1 Longitudinal Position (feet)
//2 Lateral Position (feet)
//3 Vertical Position (feet)
//4 Impact Damage Threshold (Feet Per Minute)
//5 Brake Map (0=None, 1=Left, 2=Right)
//6 Wheel Radius (feet)
//7 Steer Angle (degrees)
//8 Static Compression (feet) (0 if rigid)
//9 Max/Static Compression Ratio
//10 Damping Ratio (0=Undamped, 1=Critically Damped)
//11 Extension Time (seconds)
//12 Retraction Time (seconds)
//13 Sound Type
//14 Airspeed limit for retraction (KIAS)
//15 Airspeed that gear gets damage at (KIAS)

[contact_points]
point.0=1, -9.75, 0.001, -15.28, 1574.8, 0, 2.250, 0.0, 1.11, 2.0, 0.8470, 8.1, 10.1, 0, 185.0, 250.0 //center main
point.1=1, -7.50, -18.000, -15.28, 1574.8, 1, 2.250, 0.0, 1.11, 2.0, 0.8470, 8.1, 10.1, 2, 185.0, 250.0 //left main
point.2=1, -7.50, 18.000, -15.28, 1574.8, 2, 2.250, 0.0, 1.11, 2.0, 0.8470, 8.1, 10.1, 3, 185.0, 250.0 //right main
point.3=1, 74.02, 0.000, -15.50, 1181.1, 0, 1.666, 70.0, 1.10, 2.1, 0.8835, 10.0, 11.0, 0, 185.0, 250.0 //nose

point.4=2, -14.17, -84.80, 0.00, 787.4, 0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.00, 0.0, 0.0000, 0.0, 0.0, 5, 0.0, 0.0 //left wing
point.5=2, -14.17, 84.80, 0.00, 787.4, 0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.00, 0.0, 0.0000, 0.0, 0.0, 6, 0.0, 0.0 //right wing
point.6=2, -83.33, 0.00, 2.50, 787.4, 0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.00, 0.0, 0.0000, 0.0,
point.7=2, 96.67, 0.00, -3.75, 787.4, 0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.00, 0.0, 0.0000, 0.0, 0.0, 4, 0.0, 0.0 //aft fuselage scrape

static_pitch=-0.16
static_cg_height=14.8
gear_system_type=0

[Views]
eyepoint=91.8, -1.55, 5.6,

[flaps.0]
type=1 // 1 - tail, 2 - lead
span-outboard=0.2 // 0.0 .. 1.0
extending-time=25 // seconds
flaps-position.0=0 // degrees
flaps-position.1=0 // degrees
flaps-position.2=15 // degrees
flaps-position.3=22 // degrees
flaps-position.4=25 // degrees
flaps-position.5=28 // degrees
flaps-position.6=35 // degrees
flaps-position.7=50 // degrees
damaging-speed=255 // KIAS
blowout-speed=300 // KIAS
lift_scalar=0.25
drag_scalar=0.45
pitch_scalar=0.15
system_type=1 //Hydraulic

[flaps.1]
type=1 // 1 - tail, 2 - lead
span-outboard=0.8 // 0.0 .. 1.0
extending-time=23 // seconds
flaps-position.0=0 // degrees
flaps-position.1=0 // degrees
flaps-position.2=15 // degrees
flaps-position.3=22 // degrees
flaps-position.4=25 // degrees
flaps-position.5=28 // degrees
flaps-position.6=35 // degrees
flaps-position.7=50 // degrees
damaging-speed=255 // KIAS
blowout-speed=300 // KIAS
lift_scalar=0.25
drag_scalar=0.45
pitch_scalar=0.15
system_type=1 //Hydraulic

[flaps.2]
type=2 // 1 - tail, 2 - lead
span-outboard=0.5 // 0.0 .. 1.0
extending-time=4 // seconds
flaps-position.0=0 // degrees
flaps-position.1=0.5 // degrees
flaps-position.2=0.5 // degrees
flaps-position.3=0.5 // degrees
flaps-position.4=0.5 // degrees
flaps-position.5=1.0 // degrees
flaps-position.6=1.0 // degrees
flaps-position.7=1.0 // degrees
damaging-speed=260 // KIAS
blowout-speed=300 // KIAS
lift_scalar=0.1
drag_scalar=0.05
pitch_scalar=0.05
system_type=1 //Hydraulic

[Radios]
// Radio Type=availiable, standby frequency, has glide slope
Audio.1 = 1
Com.1 = 1, 1
Com.2 = 1, 1
Nav.1 = 1, 1, 1
Nav.2 = 1, 1, 0
Adf.1 = 1
Transponder.1 = 1
Marker.1 = 1

[keyboard_response]
//Breakpoint speeds (knots) on the keyboard increments of control surfaces.
//Speed at which the incremenet is reduced to 1/2 and 1/8 respectively.
elevator=150, 250
aileron=150, 250
rudder=150, 250

[direction_indicators]
//1 Type: 0=None, 1=Vacuum Gyro, 2=Electric Gyro, 3=Electro-Mag Slaved Compass, 4=Slaved to another
//2 Indicator number of slaving indicator if Type=4
direction_indicator.0=3,0

[LIGHTS]
//Types: 1=beacon, 2=strobe, 3=navigation, 4=cockpit, 5=landing

light.1 = 1, 11.30, 0.00, 12.20, fx_beaconb ,
light.2 = 1, 11.30, 0.00, 12.20, fx_beaconb ,
light.3 = 1, -38.00, 0.00, -8.00, fx_beaconh ,
light.4 = 1, -38.00, 0.00, -8.00, fx_beaconh ,
light.5 = 5, 28.48, 9.94, 1.78, fx_navwhi ,
light.6 = 5, 28.48,-9.94, 1.78, fx_navwhi ,
light.7 = 5, 30.48, 9.36, -1.32, fx_navwhi ,
light.8 = 5, 30.48,-9.36, -1.32, fx_navwhi ,

[EFFECTS]
wake=fx_wake
water=fx_spray
dirt=fx_tchdrt
concrete=fx_sparks
touchdown=fx_tchdwn, 1

[exits]
number_of_exits=2
exit.0 = 0.25, 85.0, -9.0, 7.5, 0
exit.1 = 0.05, -44.0, 8.0, -5.0, 1

[fuel]
Center1= -14.0, 0.0, -5.0, 9621.2, 3.0 //Longitudinal (feet), Lateral (feet), Vertical (feet), Usable(gallons), Unusable (gallons)
Center2= 11.0, 0.0, -5.0,14727.0, 3.0 //Longitudinal (feet), Lateral (feet), Vertical (feet), Usable(gallons), Unusable (gallons)
LeftMain= -4.0, -35.0, 0.0, 6107.5, 3.0 //Longitudinal (feet), Lateral (feet), Vertical (feet), Usable(gallons), Unusable (gallons)
RightMain= -4.0, 35.0, 0.0, 6107.5, 3.0 //Longitudinal (feet), Lateral (feet), Vertical (feet), Usable(gallons), Unusable (gallons)
Center3= 21.0, 0.0, -5.0, 1958.0, 3.0 //Longitudinal (feet), Lateral (feet), Vertical (feet), Usable(gallons), Unusable (gallons)
fuel_type=2 //Fuel type: 1 = Avgas, 2 = JetA
number_of_tank_selectors=1
electric_pump=0

[airplane_geometry]
wing_area=3648.8 //Square feet
wing_span=169.6 //Feet
wing_root_chord=34.0 //Feet
wing_dihedral=6.2 //Degrees
wing_incidence=1.0 //Degrees
wing_twist=0.0 //Degrees
oswald_efficiency_factor=0.85 //Measure of lift effeciency of wing
wing_winglets_flag=1 //Are winglets available?
wing_sweep=34.5 //Degrees, wing leading edge
wing_pos_apex_lon=32.2 //Feet, longitudinal distance from reference point, negative going aft
wing_pos_apex_vert=1.0 //Feet, vertical distance from reference point, positive going up
htail_area=911.0 //Square feet
htail_span=58.7 //Feet
htail_pos_lon=-70.0 //Feet, longitudinal distance from reference point, negative going aft
htail_pos_vert=8.0 //Feet, vertical distance from reference point, positive going up
htail_incidence=-1.2 //Degrees
htail_sweep=32.0 //Degrees, horizontal tail leading edge
vtail_area=623.0 //Square feet
vtail_span=30.3 //Feet, tip to body
vtail_sweep=35.0 //Degrees, vertical tail leading edge
vtail_pos_lon=-62.3 //Feet, longitudinal distance from reference point, negative going aft
vtail_pos_vert=12.0 //Feet, vertical distance from reference point, positive going up
elevator_area=167.0 //Square feet
aileron_area=120.0 //Square feet
rudder_area=138.0 //Square feet
elevator_up_limit=35.0 //Degrees
elevator_down_limit=20.0 //Degrees
aileron_up_limit=25.0 //Degrees
aileron_down_limit=15.0 //Degrees
rudder_limit=25.0 //Degrees
elevator_trim_limit=20.0 //Degrees
spoiler_limit=50.0 //Degrees
spoilerons_available=1 //Spoilerons Available?
aileron_to_spoileron_gain=3 //Aileron to spoileron gain
min_ailerons_for_spoilerons=10 //Degrees
min_flaps_for_spoilerons=0 //Minimum flap handle position when spoilerons activate
auto_spoiler_available=1
spoiler_extension_time=1.400000
positive_g_limit_flaps_up=4.000000
positive_g_limit_flaps_down=3.000000
negative_g_limit_flaps_up=-3.000000
negative_g_limit_flaps_down=-2.000000

[Reference Speeds]
flaps_up_stall_speed=150.0 //Knots True (KTAS)
full_flaps_stall_speed=120.0 //Knots True (KTAS)
cruise_speed=322.0 //Knots True (KTAS)
max_indicated_speed=473.000000
max_mach=0.880000

[autopilot]
autopilot_available=1
flight_director_available=1
default_vertical_speed=800.0
autothrottle_available=1
autothrottle_arming_required=1
autothrottle_max_rpm=96
autothrottle_takeoff_ga=1
pitch_takeoff_ga=8;
use_no_default_pitch = 1 // 0 = Default to current pitch mode, 1 = No default pitch mode.
use_no_default_bank = 1 // 0 = Default to Wing Leveler mode, 1 = No default bank mode.
default_pitch_mode=0
default_bank_mode=0
max_pitch=10.000000
max_pitch_acceleration=1.000000
max_pitch_velocity_lo_alt=2.000000
max_pitch_velocity_hi_alt=1.500000
max_pitch_velocity_lo_alt_breakpoint=20000.000000
max_pitch_velocity_hi_alt_breakpoint=28000.000000
max_bank=25.000000
max_bank_acceleration=1.800000
max_bank_velocity=3.000000
max_throttle_rate=1.000000
nav_proportional_control=15.00
nav_integrator_control=0.25
nav_derivative_control=0.00
nav_integrator_boundary=0.05
nav_derivative_boundary=0.05
gs_proportional_control=9.520000
gs_integrator_control=0.260000
gs_derivative_control=0.000000
gs_integrator_boundary=0.700000
gs_derivative_boundary=0.000000
yaw_damper_gain=0.000000


[forcefeedback]
gear_bump_nose_magnitude=3000 ; 0 - 10000
gear_bump_nose_direction=18000 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
gear_bump_nose_duration=250000 ; in microseconds
gear_bump_left_magnitude=2700 ; 0 - 10000
gear_bump_left_direction=35500 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
gear_bump_left_duration=250000 ; in microseconds
gear_bump_right_magnitude=2700 ; 0 - 10000
gear_bump_right_direction=00500 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
gear_bump_right_duration=250000 ; in microseconds
ground_bumps_magnitude1=1300 ; 0 - 10000
ground_bumps_angle1=08900 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
ground_bumps_intercept1=3.0
ground_bumps_slope1=0.20
ground_bumps_magnitude2=200 ; 0 - 10000
ground_bumps_angle2=09100 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
ground_bumps_intercept2=1.075
ground_bumps_slope2=0.035
crash_magnitude1=10000 ; 0 - 10000
crash_direction1=01000 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
crash_magnitude2=10000 ; 0 - 10000
crash_direction2=9000 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
crash_period2=75000 ; in microseconds
crash_duration2=2500000 ; in microseconds

[brakes]
toe_brakes_scale=0.639926 ; brakes_scale 0 to none 1 to hard
parking_brake=1
auto_brakes=4

[gear_warning_system]
gear_warning_available=1
pct_throttle_limit=0.099976
flap_limit_power=25.496622
flap_limit_idle=5.042029

[hydraulic_system]
electric_pumps=0
engine_map=1,1,1,0
normal_pressure=3000.000000

[stall_warning]
type=1
stick_shaker=1

[attitude_indicators]
attitude_indicator.0=2

[turn_indicators]
turn_indicator.0=1,0

[folding_wings]
wing_fold_system_type=4 ;0=None
fold_rates=0.12,0.11 ;Percent per second

[TailHook]
tailhook_length=4 ;(feet)
tailhook_position=-15.0, 0.0, -1.0 ;(feet) longitudinal, lateral, vertical positions from datum
cable_force_adjust=0.0

[pitot_static]
pitot_heat=1.000000

[vacuum_system]
max_pressure=5.150000
vacuum_type=2
electric_backup_pressure=0.000000
engine_map=0,0,0,0

[pneumatic_system]
max_pressure=18.000000
bleed_air_scalar=1.000000

[deice_system]
structural_deice_type=0