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driver170
Post subject: Atc not letting me fly my STAR
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:46 pm
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Ok these are the steps i take -

1 Do NOT tick the box in the SIDS/STARS page, but select a start of STAR in the waypoints page. This method will have atc tell you at that point to fly your STAR. You should follow the descent instructions on the STAR you are flying, not expect atc to descend you. Your waypoint altitudes in the PFE flightplan should correspond to the STAR altitudes. When you reach the final waypoint at the correct altitude you should hear atc contact you to vector you to final.


But soon as i hit my star ATC is giving me vectors? I'm expecting to fin my star before atc is butting in?
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pschlute
Post subject: Re: Atc not letting me fly my STAR
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:50 pm
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Post the PFE flightplan here , and the name of the STAR

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driver170
Post subject: Re: Atc not letting me fly my STAR
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:57 pm
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?xml version="1.0" encoding="Windows-1252"?>

<SimBase.Document Type="AceXML" version="1,0">
<Descr>AceXML Document</Descr>
<FlightPlan.FlightPlan>
<Title>LEIB to EGBB</Title>
<FPType>IFR</FPType>
<RouteType>HighAlt</RouteType>
<CruisingAlt>36000</CruisingAlt>
<DepartureID>LEIB</DepartureID>
<DepartureLLA>N38° 52' 22.00",E001° 22' 23.00",24</DepartureLLA>
<DestinationID>EGBB</DestinationID>
<DestinationLLA>N52° 27' 13.88",W001° 44' 52.90",341</DestinationLLA>
<Descr>LEIB to EGBB created by PFPX - Professional Flight Planner X (http://www.flightsimsoft.com/pfpx)</Descr>
<DeparturePosition>24</DeparturePosition>
<DepartureName>IBIZA</DepartureName>
<DestinationName>BIRMINGHAM</DestinationName>
<AppVersion>
<AppVersionMajor>10</AppVersionMajor>
<AppVersionBuild>61472</AppVersionBuild>
</AppVersion>
<ATCWaypoint id="LEIB">
<ATCWaypointType>Airport</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N38° 52' 22.00",E001° 22' 23.00",+000024.00</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>LEIB</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="GODOX">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N39° 22' 21.40",E001° 24' 38.70",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>GODOX</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="EPAMA">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N39° 36' 11.29",E001° 22' 49.40",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UN856</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>EPAMA</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="MARTA">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N40° 21' 16.59",E001° 16' 47.70",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UN856</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>MARTA</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="EBROX">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N40° 42' 31.39",E001° 13' 54.40",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UN856</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>EBROX</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="RES">
<ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N41° 08' 58.89",E001° 10' 15.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UN856</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>RES</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="SELVA">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N41° 11' 46.20",E001° 09' 58.60",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UN863</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>SELVA</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="KARES">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N41° 19' 51.70",E001° 09' 07.80",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UN863</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>KARES</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="ARBEK">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N41° 32' 37.90",E001° 07' 47.20",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UN863</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>ARBEK</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="REBUL">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N41° 41' 52.50",E001° 06' 48.49",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UN863</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>REBUL</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="USKAR">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N42° 08' 37.40",E001° 03' 57.09",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UN863</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>USKAR</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="MOPAS">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N42° 26' 07.29",E001° 02' 03.69",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UN863</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>MOPAS</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="GIROM">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N42° 46' 29.49",E000° 59' 50.30",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UN863</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>GIROM</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="ASPET">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N43° 00' 00.00",E000° 58' 46.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UN863</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>ASPET</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="AGN">
<ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N43° 53' 16.89",E000° 52' 22.29",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UN863</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>AGN</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="SECHE">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N44° 26' 18.99",E000° 30' 55.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UN863</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>SECHE</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="VELIN">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N44° 58' 47.99",E000° 09' 20.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UN863</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>VELIN</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="CNA">
<ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N45° 39' 34.42",W000° 18' 41.87",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UN863</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>CNA</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="TUPAR">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N46° 25' 45.00",W000° 39' 46.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UM184</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>TUPAR</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="RALIX">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N46° 56' 24.99",W001° 02' 20.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UY120</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>RALIX</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="IBSUS">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N47° 30' 52.99",W001° 07' 01.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UY120</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>IBSUS</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="AKIKI">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N49° 35' 28.99",W001° 25' 00.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UY120</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>AKIKI</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="GARMI">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N50° 00' 00.00",W001° 22' 50.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UN867</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>GARMI</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="KATHY">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N50° 31' 14.00",W001° 19' 59.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UN867</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>KATHY</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="ELDER">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N50° 39' 48.00",W001° 20' 13.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UN867</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>ELDER</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="SAM">
<ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N50° 57' 18.89",W001° 20' 42.20",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UN867</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>SAM</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="PEPIS">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N51° 11' 48.00",W001° 14' 36.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UQ41</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>PEPIS</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="NORRY">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N51° 28' 46.99",W001° 07' 23.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UQ41</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>NORRY</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="COWLY">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N51° 36' 58.00",W001° 03' 54.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UQ41</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>COWLY</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="WCO">
<ATCWaypointType>NDB</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N51° 51' 10.51",W000° 57' 44.67",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UQ41</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>WCO</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="EGBB">
<ATCWaypointType>Airport</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N52° 27' 13.88",W001° 44' 52.90",+000341.00</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>EGBB</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
</FlightPlan.FlightPlan>
</SimBase.Document>
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driver170
Post subject: Re: Atc not letting me fly my STAR
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:58 pm
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pschlute
Post subject: Re: Atc not letting me fly my STAR
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:47 am
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That is the FSX flightplan you have posted. I need to see the PFE plan. You can open the plan in PFE and take a screenshot of the waypoints page, or alternatively just type them on here.

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driver170
Post subject: Re: Atc not letting me fly my STAR
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 9:51 am
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Oops sorry dude :oops:

I'll do it tonight once i'm home! Will i just open open pfe reload the fp and type in the waypoints? Not sure how to do a screen shot only in fsx....
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pschlute
Post subject: Re: Atc not letting me fly my STAR
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:23 am
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yes , open PFE, "select new adv"; load the plan; click on "adjust waypoint altitudes". Then either take a screenshot or just type the waypoints on a reply to this post.

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driver170
Post subject: Re: Atc not letting me fly my STAR
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 11:46 am
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Will do ;)

Oh thanks for the reply on avsim !!!
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driver170
Post subject: Re: Atc not letting me fly my STAR
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:52 pm
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/dnnjund0t8u7l ... .50.50.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/t5yjwde0ef944 ... .52.37.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/a0jupm79nlkek ... .53.28.png
also included my sids and stars
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pschlute
Post subject: Re: Atc not letting me fly my STAR
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:05 pm
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The problem is that you have WCO as the last waypoint in your flightplan. When you reach the last waypoint PFE will vector you to finals. Try amending your FSX plan by adding HON EBONY and GROVE (the STAR waypoints). Then recompile in PFE. Use the waypoints page to set WCO as the start of the STAR. As WCO is not now the final waypoint, you should be told to fly your STAR, and hopefully not receive vectors until you reach GROVE.

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