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pschlute
Post subject: Re: Approach and atc not good
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:33 pm
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driver170 wrote:
no star waypoints are appearing in pfe fp :(

ok thanks i'll have a look.

where can i find the speal if i was doing the approach myself?
can you copy and paste here the flightplan that PFPX produces.

try googling the approach plates for the airport or pay for these.... http://www.navigraph.com/Charts.aspx

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driver170
Post subject: Re: Approach and atc not good
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:39 pm
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I use navigraph!

I'll send it in 5 :)

I can't thank YOU enough for all your support and help you've been the one thats brought light to it.

Thanks again.
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driver170
Post subject: Re: Approach and atc not good
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:48 pm
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is the route you are wanting
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driver170
Post subject: Re: Approach and atc not good
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:49 pm
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RYANAIR FLIGHTPLAN - IFR RYR27 RYR27 EGKK-EGPH
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ALL WEIGHTS IN KILOGRAMS (KG) STD 11JUN/2010Z
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OFP 1 - PREPARED 11JUN/1956Z BY VERNON HOWELLS

RYR27 RYR27/B737-8ERW CF ROUTE: (MANUAL)

DEP: EGKK/LGW 26L ELEV 203 FT COST INDEX: 30 TTL G/C DIST: 310 NM
ARR: EGPH/EDI 24 ELEV 136 FT INIT ALT: FL400 TTL F/P DIST: 357 NM
FUEL BIAS: 115.0% TTL AIR DIST: 369 NM
AVG WIND CMP: HD012 KT
ALT: EGPF/GLA 23 ELEV 26 FT 64 NM
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CONFIG DOW PAX CARGO TOTAL ULOAD LIM ZFW TOW LDW
STANDARD 41400 116 2191 11471 8929 LDW MAX 62686 79242 66360
PLN 52871 60222 57431
ACT ...... ...... ......

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** TAKE-OFF DATA EGKK 26L **

COND: 57698 KG - RWY DRY @ +18°C Q1028 240/05 // LMT: OBS(C)
CONFIG: FLAPS 1 - D-TO2 +50C
A/I OFF - A/C ON

SPEEDS: V1/138 - VR/138 - V2/142

ENG OUT: LT TO 'MAY' 117.9 (090 INBD,LT)
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FUEL CORR ENDUR
TRIP 2791 ........ 00:59
CONT 5% 195 ........ 00:04
ALTN EGPF 849 ........ 00:18
FINAL RESV 1168 ........ 00:30
HOLD 1181 ........ 00:30
MIN T/O 6184 ........ 02:21 .....................................
EXTRA 1167 ........ 00:30 CAPTAINS SIGNATURE (....)
TAXI 180 ........ 00:10
RELEASE 7531 ........ 03:01 I ACCEPT THIS OFP AND I AM FAMILIAR
WITH THE PLANNED ROUTE AND AERODROMES

FUEL TANK CAP 20889 KG / MAX EXTRA FUEL 8929 KG LIM BY LDW
TRIP CORR FOR 1000 KG TOW INCR: +30 KG / 1000 KG TOW DECR: -30 KG
2000 FT LOWER: +7 KG / EET 00:59 CLB: 250/300/80 DES: 78/280/250

EGKK/LGW STD 20:10 ETD 20:10 ACT OFBL ..... EST T/O 20:20 ACT T/O .....
EGPH/EDI STA 21:20 ETA 21:24 ACT ONBL ..... EST LDG 21:19 ACT LDG .....
TTL BLCK ..... TTL FLT .....

ATC ROUTE: N0454F400 LAM4M LAM UL10 BPK UN601 SHAPP DCT MARGO TWED2A


ALTERNATE PLANNING
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ALTN/RWY DIST ALT/FL COMP TIME FUEL DIFF ROUTE
EGPF/23 64 FL080 HD011 00:18 849 - GRIC3C GRICE GLW1E


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AWY WAYPOINT MT ALT WND/VEL TAS DIST FUEL REM / USED LEG ACC
NAME TMP FREQ GS REM POSITION ETO / ATO
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EGKK/26L 203 7.4 / 0.2
GATWICK 357 N5109.0 W00010.3 ...../.....

LAM4M D260C 258 *CLB 4 7.0 / 0.5 02 00:02
IWW260003 354 N5108.2 W00016.0 ...../.....

LAM4M DET31 030 *CLB 5 6.9 / 0.6 01 00:03
DET260031 349 N5112.2 W00012.5 ...../.....

LAM4M DET29 080 *CLB 2 6.8 / 0.7 01 00:04
DET260029 347 N5112.6 W00009.4 ...../.....

LAM4M ACORN 080 *CLB 14 6.6 / 0.9 02 00:06
333 N5115.3 E00011.8 ...../.....

LAM4M D260J 081 *CLB 5 6.5 / 1.0 01 00:07
DET260010 328 N5116.3 E00020.2 ...../.....

LAM4M D158O 354 *CLB 9 6.4 / 1.2 01 00:08
LAM158015 319 N5125.0 E00018.5 ...../.....

LAM4M D158J 339 *CLB 5 6.3 / 1.2 01 00:09
LAM158010 314 N5129.6 E00015.4 ...../.....

LAM4M LAM 338 *CLB 10 6.2 / 1.3 01 00:10
LAMBOURNE 115.60 304 N5138.8 E00009.1 ...../.....

UL10 BPK 304 *CLB 11 6.1 / 1.5 02 00:12
BROOKMANS PARK 117.50 293 N5145.0 W00006.4 ...../.....

UN601 POTON 331 *CLB 23 5.8 / 1.7 03 00:15
269 N5205.1 W00025.6 ...../.....

UN601 BEDFO 331 *CLB 10 5.7 / 1.8 01 00:16
260 N5213.5 W00033.8 ...../.....

UN601 EBOTO 331 *CLB 9 5.7 / 1.9 01 00:17
250 N5221.5 W00041.7 ...../.....

UN601 PIPIN 331 *CLB 18 5.5 / 2.0 03 00:20
233 N5236.6 W00056.5 ...../.....

UN601 LESTA 331 *CLB 9 5.4 / 2.1 01 00:21
223 N5244.4 W00104.3 ...../.....

*TOC 331 FL400 274/035 454 6 5.4 / 2.1 01 00:22
-56 433 218 N5249.4 W00109.2 ...../.....

UN601 ROBIN 331 FL400 273/035 454 10 5.4 / 2.2 01 00:23
-56 433 208 N5257.8 W00117.7 ...../.....

UN601 DISAL 331 FL400 272/036 454 23 5.2 / 2.3 03 00:26
-56 433 185 N5317.5 W00137.8 ...../.....

UN601 BOLBI 331 FL400 272/036 455 12 5.2 / 2.4 02 00:28
-55 433 172 N5328.0 W00148.8 ...../.....

UN601 POL 331 FL400 272/038 455 20 5.0 / 2.5 03 00:31
POLE HILL -55 112.10 433 153 N5344.6 W00206.2 ...../.....

UN601 RIBEL 341 FL400 271/039 455 18 4.9 / 2.6 02 00:33
-55 437 135 N5401.0 W00217.4 ...../.....

*TOD 341 FL400 271/039 455 14 4.9 / 2.7 02 00:35
-55 437 121 N5413.6 W00226.2 ...../.....

UN601 SHAPP 341 *DES 18 4.8 / 2.8 05 00:40
104 N5430.0 W00237.6 ...../.....

DCT MARGO 341 *DES 13 4.7 / 2.8 02 00:42
90 N5442.5 W00246.5 ...../.....

TWED2A INPIP 341 *DES 11 4.7 / 2.8 02 00:44
79 N5452.6 W00253.8 ...../.....

TWED2A INREV 341 *DES 18 4.7 / 2.8 02 00:46
-EGPX 61 N5509.0 W00305.7 ...../.....

TWED2A ESKDO 341 *DES 10 4.7 / 2.8 02 00:48
52 N5517.9 W00312.3 ...../.....

TWED2A D151J 008 *DES 3 4.7 / 2.8 01 00:49
TLA151010 48 N5521.3 W00311.7 ...../.....

TWED2A TARTN 008 *DES 22 4.6 / 2.9 04 00:53
26 N5543.0 W00308.3 ...../.....

TWED2A TWEED 246 *DES 5 4.6 / 2.9 01 00:54
21 N5540.6 W00316.6 ...../.....

TWED2A EGPH/24 354 136 21 4.6 / 3.0 05 00:59
EDINBURGH N5557.3 W00321.5 ...../.....

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WIND INFORMATION - OBS ASKY
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(CLIMB) ROBIN DISAL POL
FL390 275/023 -58 FL440 274/035 -56 FL440 273/036 -55 FL440 273/039 -55
FL310 265/022 -45 FL420 274/035 -56 FL420 273/036 -55 FL420 273/039 -55
FL230 245/022 -24 FL400 274/035 -56 FL400 273/036 -55 FL400 273/039 -55
FL150 241/021 -8 FL380 273/036 -55 FL380 273/037 -55 FL380 271/040 -55
FL070 247/008 +7 FL360 273/038 -54 FL360 273/040 -53 FL360 268/043 -54

(DESCENT)
FL390 271/044 -53
FL310 270/052 -46
FL230 273/035 -26
FL150 265/027 -11
FL070 249/014 +4

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END FLIGHTPLAN 00188 RYR27 RYR27 EGKK-EGPH 11JUN2014
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driver170
Post subject: Re: Approach and atc not good
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:07 am
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I failed to mention also what about step climbs and descends if i get them in my pfpx? how will i go about doing that...
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pschlute
Post subject: Re: Approach and atc not good
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:19 am
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I presume you can export the flight plan from PFPX to FSX. Can you post the FSX flightplan on here.

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driver170
Post subject: Re: Approach and atc not good
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:28 am
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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="Windows-1252"?>

<SimBase.Document Type="AceXML" version="1,0">
<Descr>AceXML Document</Descr>
<FlightPlan.FlightPlan>
<Title>EGKK to EGPH</Title>
<FPType>IFR</FPType>
<RouteType>HighAlt</RouteType>
<CruisingAlt>40000</CruisingAlt>
<DepartureID>EGKK</DepartureID>
<DepartureLLA>N51° 08' 53.00",W000° 11' 25.00",203</DepartureLLA>
<DestinationID>EGPH</DestinationID>
<DestinationLLA>N55° 57' 00.00",W003° 22' 20.99",136</DestinationLLA>
<Descr>EGKK to EGPH created by PFPX - Professional Flight Planner X (http://www.flightsimsoft.com/pfpx)</Descr>
<DeparturePosition>26L</DeparturePosition>
<DepartureName>GATWICK</DepartureName>
<DestinationName>EDINBURGH</DestinationName>
<AppVersion>
<AppVersionMajor>10</AppVersionMajor>
<AppVersionBuild>61472</AppVersionBuild>
</AppVersion>
<ATCWaypoint id="EGKK">
<ATCWaypointType>Airport</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N51° 08' 53.00",W000° 11' 25.00",+000203.00</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>EGKK</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="LAM">
<ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N51° 38' 45.69",E000° 09' 06.13",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>LAM</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="BPK">
<ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N51° 44' 59.05",W000° 06' 24.24",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UL10</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>BPK</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="POTON">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N52° 05' 03.99",W000° 25' 37.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UN601</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>POTON</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="BEDFO">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N52° 13' 29.99",W000° 33' 47.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UN601</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>BEDFO</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="EBOTO">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N52° 21' 32.99",W000° 41' 40.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UN601</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>EBOTO</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="PIPIN">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N52° 36' 36.00",W000° 56' 30.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UN601</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>PIPIN</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="LESTA">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N52° 44' 26.99",W001° 04' 18.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UN601</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>LESTA</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="ROBIN">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N52° 57' 47.99",W001° 17' 44.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UN601</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>ROBIN</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="DISAL">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N53° 17' 29.00",W001° 37' 50.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UN601</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>DISAL</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="BOLBI">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N53° 28' 00.00",W001° 48' 45.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UN601</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>BOLBI</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="POL">
<ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N53° 44' 37.56",W002° 06' 11.98",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UN601</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>POL</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="RIBEL">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N54° 00' 57.99",W002° 17' 22.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UN601</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>RIBEL</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="SHAPP">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N54° 30' 00.00",W002° 37' 37.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ATCAirway>UN601</ATCAirway>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>SHAPP</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="MARGO">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N54° 42' 27.00",W002° 46' 28.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>MARGO</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="EGPH">
<ATCWaypointType>Airport</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N55° 57' 00.00",W003° 22' 20.99",+000136.00</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>EGPH</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
</FlightPlan.FlightPlan>
</SimBase.Document>
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pschlute
Post subject: Re: Approach and atc not good
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:50 am
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Yep, as I suspected.

Your PFPX plan includes the SID and all it's waypoints...same for STAR

The FSX plan does not. This is because FSX has no database of SIDS/STARS

So what you need to do is..........

For SIDS.... generally do nothing. There is rarely a need to have a SID's waypoints in the PFE flightplan.

For STARS..... you will need to do some work on the plan in FSX before you compile it in PFE. So open the plan in FSX, select edit and drag the route line from MARGO to ESKDO ;TARTN; and TWEED. Then save the FSX plan. Then use PFE to convert and compile. You now will have your STAR waypoints in PFE and can assign altitudes according to the STAR chart.

Simples

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driver170
Post subject: Re: Approach and atc not good
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:00 am
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Not getting it!

I have opened it up in notepad but not sure what to do? Am i pasting my star from pfpx to it?
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driver170
Post subject: Re: Approach and atc not good
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:08 am
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Its impossible to insert new waypoints into notepad i need all those code things i pasted above!
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