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sidneyschwartz
Post subject: Dude, where's my IAP?
Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 9:48 pm
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Flying into a couple of airports with no app, tower or ground control, I requested IAP's from Center and was told "Unable at this time." Why not? What conditions have to be met in order for me to be cleared to fly an IAP in this situation?


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Dave March
Post subject: Re: Dude, where's my IAP?
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:39 am
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Sorry, almost missed this post.

You should certainly be able to request 'Cleared to Finals'. I would need to see the log file for this flight if you can recreate it.

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sidneyschwartz
Post subject: Re: Dude, where's my IAP?
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 5:49 pm
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I can do Cleared to Finals. If I can reproduce the IAP problem I'll send the log.


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sidneyschwartz
Post subject: Re: Dude, where's my IAP?
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 4:41 am
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I was able to reproduce this. Below is the relevant section of the log. I'll email you the entire log file.

5/20/2013 7:13:22 PM: 980 - SayPFSentence:- ProFlightW\pfctr26P,ProFlightW\pfac97P,ProFlightW\pf5P,ProFlightW\pf5P,ProFlightW\pf7P,ProFlightW\pf7P,ProFlightW\pfchat264P,pfclick
5/20/2013 7:13:22 PM: 980 -
5/20/2013 7:13:22 PM: 980 - Transcript: 'EDMONTON CENTER US Air 5577 request an instrument approach '
5/20/2013 7:13:23 PM: 100 - FS Screen : EDMONTON CENTER US Air 5577 request an instrument approach
5/20/2013 7:13:28 PM: 840 - ****** HotKey #3 detected!
5/20/2013 7:13:28 PM: 840 - Set 'Execute' Hotkey #3 !
5/20/2013 7:13:30 PM: 020 -
5/20/2013 7:13:30 PM: 020 - SayPFSentence:- PfeFlightF\pfchat153C,pfclick
5/20/2013 7:13:30 PM: 020 -
5/20/2013 7:13:30 PM: 020 - Transcript: 'Stand by. We'll check '
5/20/2013 7:13:30 PM: 090 - FS Screen : Stand by. We'll check
5/20/2013 7:13:35 PM: 510 - Selecting runway (VFR/IFR=1)
5/20/2013 7:13:35 PM: 510 - Selecting runway (VFR/IFR=0)
5/20/2013 7:13:35 PM: 510 - Active Runway is set to 27
5/20/2013 7:13:35 PM: 510 - Calculated Approach FAF: 65.15144,-126.2608
5/20/2013 7:13:35 PM: 510 - Calculated Extended FAF: 65.0238,-125.7358
5/20/2013 7:13:35 PM: 510 - SID Feature is OFF
5/20/2013 7:13:35 PM: 510 - STAR Feature is OFF
5/20/2013 7:13:35 PM: 510 - SID_Name set to:
5/20/2013 7:13:35 PM: 510 - SID_Alt set to: 0
5/20/2013 7:13:35 PM: 510 - PFE_Ind set to: 0
5/20/2013 7:13:35 PM: 510 - MAP_Alt set to: 0
5/20/2013 7:13:35 PM: 510 - STAR_Name set to:
5/20/2013 7:13:36 PM: 870 -
5/20/2013 7:13:36 PM: 870 - SayPFSentence:- PfeFlightF\pfac97C,PfeFlightF\pf5C,PfeFlightF\pf5C,PfeFlightF\pf7C,PfeFlightF\pf7C,PfeFlightF\pfchat154C,pfclick
5/20/2013 7:13:36 PM: 880 -
5/20/2013 7:13:36 PM: 880 - Delay next (back-to-back) call for 9 secs
5/20/2013 7:13:45 PM: 880 - Transcript: 'US Air 5577 Unable at this time '
5/20/2013 7:13:46 PM: 050 - FS Screen : US Air 5577 Unable at this time
5/20/2013 7:13:51 PM: 770 - Checking compliance - Alt: 10072 sWPAlt: 9500 FlightType: 1 ATC_Timer: 0 AltTimer: 69008 FSTime: 69231 AptSighted: 0 Handoff: 0


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sidneyschwartz
Post subject: Re: Dude, where's my IAP?
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 7:32 am
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Any progress on this?


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Dave March
Post subject: Re: Dude, where's my IAP?
Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 2:37 pm
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You received 'Unable at this time' because there was no ILS available

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sidneyschwartz
Post subject: Re: Dude, where's my IAP?
Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 6:46 pm
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Is this something you can change, or is it a limitation of PF2000? It makes no sense to me since there a) there are probably at least as many non-ILS IAPs as ILS IAPs, and b) an airport with no ILS runways is the one where it's more likely that you'd need an IAP. If it's something you can change, please consider it for your user wish list. Thanks for taking the time to look into it. :mrgreen:


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