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ThomasAH wrote:

PF3 has multiple routing algorithms. First it tries a fast one, and when this does not return a result, it tries the other one. At this point you hear the second "stand by" call. I had situations where this second algorithm chokes on a complicated AFCAD and needs more than 5 minutes to come up with long results like:
J-Bird 1608 Roger. Taxi to holding point, runway 6 using taxiway Golf 2 Golf Golf 3 Golf Hotel 14 Golf Golf 5 Echo 1 Sierra 7 Sierra 6 Sierra 5 Bravo Sierra 4 Bravo Sierra 3 Bravo Sierra 2 Romeo Sierra 1 Romeo

During this time ATC is so busy that it ignores you (and everyone else). Just be patient, when PF3 is finished, it will talk to you.
Things that helped me preventing such situations:
- using a different parking spot
- using a different AFCAD


Additionally, when you disconnect PF3 in this situation, it does not clear the hotkeys registered with FSUIPC, and as the number of allowed hotkeys is limited (I think 56 for all add-ons combined), you will quickly run out of slots.

ThomasAH wrote:

There will be only seconds between first and second standby, but up to several minutes between the second standby and Ground giving you the route.
PF3 will not talk to other aircraft, react to hotkeys or do anything else during this time. You need to be patient here.
The amount of AI does not matter.
(my 5 minutes was with default FSX EHAM AFCAD - five runways and many taxiways)

ThomasAH wrote:

There will be only seconds between first and second standby, but up to several minutes between the second standby and Ground giving you the route.
PF3 will not talk to other aircraft, react to hotkeys or do anything else during this time. You need to be patient here.
The amount of AI does not matter.
(my 5 minutes was with default FSX EHAM AFCAD - five runways and many taxiways)

vololiberista wrote:

ThomasAH wrote:

(my 5 minutes was with default FSX EHAM AFCAD - five runways and many taxiways)

What parking spot were you at Thomas and what runway were you supposed to taxi to?

06/01/2016 00:00:53: 426 - Transcript: 'Ground J-Bird 1608 at parking number 42 Ready to taxi.  '
06/01/2016 00:01:16: 785 - Call Route: 774,G87
06/01/2016 00:01:17: 125 - Route Found: 774,773,772,771,770,232,231,230,229,37,228,338,759,758,756,757,760,36,101,347,6,346,345,344,343,236,804,309,290,299,300,817,301,160,161,162,452,728,442,440,410,251,250,425,G87
06/01/2016 00:01:17: 230 - Transcript: 'J-Bird 1608 Roger. Taxi to holding point, runway 18 Left using taxiway   Golf 7  Golf   Golf 5  Golf   Hotel 14  Golf 4  Echo 3  Alpha 11  Alpha 12  Alpha 13   '

16/03/2016 18:24:05: 300 - Call Route: 914,G237
16/03/2016 18:29:11: 260 - Route Found: 914,790,495,494,498,215,336,1181,101,36,760,757,756,758,759,338,337,7,339,802,283,1132,287,754,919,284,800,181,182,183,51,54,184,63,185,187,188,202,1184,247,719,862,720,721,863,174,172,864,722,154,153,G222,G237
16/03/2016 19:07:30: 980 - Transcript: 'J-Bird 1608 Roger. Taxi to holding point, runway 6 using taxiway   Golf 2  Golf   Golf 3  Golf   Hotel 14  Golf   Golf 5  Echo 1  Sierra 7  Sierra 6  Sierra 5  Bravo   Sierra 4  Bravo   Sierra 3  Bravo   Sierra 2  Romeo   Sierra 1  Romeo    '

ThomasAH wrote:

vololiberista wrote:

ThomasAH wrote:

(my 5 minutes was with default FSX EHAM AFCAD - five runways and many taxiways)

What parking spot were you at Thomas and what runway were you supposed to taxi to?

Code: Select all 06/01/2016 00:00:53: 426 - Transcript: 'Ground J-Bird 1608 at parking number 42 Ready to taxi. ' 06/01/2016 00:01:16: 785 - Call Route: 774,G87 06/01/2016 00:01:17: 125 - Route Found: 774,773,772,771,770,232,231,230,229,37,228,338,759,758,756,757,760,36,101,347,6,346,345,344,343,236,804,309,290,299,300,817,301,160,161,162,452,728,442,440,410,251,250,425,G87 06/01/2016 00:01:17: 230 - Transcript: 'J-Bird 1608 Roger. Taxi to holding point, runway 18 Left using taxiway Golf 7 Golf Golf 5 Golf Hotel 14 Golf 4 Echo 3 Alpha 11 Alpha 12 Alpha 13 '

See the old/closed thread "unresponsive while calculating a taxi route" in the beta forum.

Edit: Scratch that, this was a faster one ... the long route was parking 11 to runway 6:

Code: Select all 16/03/2016 18:24:05: 300 - Call Route: 914,G237 16/03/2016 18:29:11: 260 - Route Found: 914,790,495,494,498,215,336,1181,101,36,760,757,756,758,759,338,337,7,339,802,283,1132,287,754,919,284,800,181,182,183,51,54,184,63,185,187,188,202,1184,247,719,862,720,721,863,174,172,864,722,154,153,G222,G237 16/03/2016 19:07:30: 980 - Transcript: 'J-Bird 1608 Roger. Taxi to holding point, runway 6 using taxiway Golf 2 Golf Golf 3 Golf Hotel 14 Golf Golf 5 Echo 1 Sierra 7 Sierra 6 Sierra 5 Bravo Sierra 4 Bravo Sierra 3 Bravo Sierra 2 Romeo Sierra 1 Romeo '