OnCourse Software

Hello all,

some time ago I was thinking about purchasing MCE for use with PF3 to enhance this great software even further. But I hesitated to do so because there were some problems reported concerning wrong hotkeys sent from MCE in some cases.

Is anybody using MCE with PF3? Are those problems solved meanwhile and does MCE run flawlessly together with PF3 now?

Any experience reports would be appreciated.

Thank you.

I hope it is okay to ask this in the PF3 forum.

Ralf.

Hi,

I've been using the two products together for a while now. There is a learning curve, and a few things I think one must know:

A well calibrated mic and the right call sign are very important for speech recognition!

PF3's simulation of the FO is not perfect. Possibility one: Set VCP's voice to "None" and do all the talking yourself. Possibility two: Choose your VCP's voice and let him do ALL the talking - in this case you can't speak with ATC youself, at least not without your FO repeating everything after you say it. For that case I have made a number of VoxKey (comes with MCE) commands, like "Please request clearance" or "Please request taxi", which trigger the according PF3 hotkey - I give the FO the command, and he then requests from ATC.

Also: The PF3 and MCE voices aren't the same, of course. I've made a list of PF3 voices and the corresponding MCE ones. Not perfect matches, but for me good enough not to kill the immersion (until PF3 and MCE talk at the same time - oh well). If you like, I'll post it.

Then there are a few minor bugs, like the hand-over from tower to departure that happens automatically (departure acknowledges you before you even contact them), and I find CTAF announcements are hard to get recognized.

Still, it's the best ATC & FO combination I've experienced, and I'm very looking forward to the improvements that happen to both products!

dtsakiris wrote:

Hi,

I've been using the two products together for a while now. There is a learning curve, and a few things I think one must know:

A well calibrated mic and the right call sign are very important for speech recognition!

PF3's simulation of the FO is not perfect. Possibility one: Set VCP's voice to "None" and do all the talking yourself. Possibility two: Choose your VCP's voice and let him do ALL the talking - in this case you can't speak with ATC youself, at least not without your FO repeating everything after you say it. For that case I have made a number of VoxKey (comes with MCE) commands, like "Please request clearance" or "Please request taxi", which trigger the according PF3 hotkey - I give the FO the command, and he then requests from ATC.

Also: The PF3 and MCE voices aren't the same, of course. I've made a list of PF3 voices and the corresponding MCE ones. Not perfect matches, but for me good enough not to kill the immersion (until PF3 and MCE talk at the same time - oh well). If you like, I'll post it.

Then there are a few minor bugs, like the hand-over from tower to departure that happens automatically (departure acknowledges you before you even contact them), and I find CTAF announcements are hard to get recognized.

Still, it's the best ATC & FO combination I've experienced, and I'm very looking forward to the improvements that happen to both products!

Thank you very much for your reply.
I'm using a software similar to voxkey right now and did what you did to simulate the FO talking to ATC. That was fine as long as I was mainly flying airliners IFR (using FS2Crew).
I'm more into GA-aircraft and VFR flying (without FO ) recently and setting up the voice recogniton software for that would be a lot of work. So I'm looking at MCE again (they already did that work...).
Good to hear it is working well with PF3 fundamentally.

Though I am not sure if I would ever use the FO of MCE (instead of FS2Crew) it would be nice if you would let me know the roughly matching voices of MCE and PF3.

Thank you.

Ralf

Here we go:

Clive - British Pilot 10 (alternatively 13)
Lorna - British Pilot 19 (alternatively 23)
Stuart - British Pilot 3 (this one needs to be revisited)
Trav - US Northern Pilot 6
Will - British Pilot 13

Let me know if you find better matches!

dtsakiris wrote:

Here we go:

Clive - British Pilot 10 (alternatively 13)
Lorna - British Pilot 19 (alternatively 23)
Stuart - British Pilot 3 (this one needs to be revisited)
Trav - US Northern Pilot 6
Will - British Pilot 13

Let me know if you find better matches!

Thank you very much!