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jsbrewster1
Post subject: Requiring an alternate CTDs PF3
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:38 pm
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Hi all,

I apologize if this has already been addressed, but when I require an alternate in the options, and then enter the ICAO when requested, PF3 stops working. I'm loading a flight plan from Plan-G, and have had no issues other than this. the Plan-G flight plan doesn't include an alternate, but thought I could add it in PF3. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

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Dave March
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:12 pm
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When you say it stops working what exactly happens? Any messages?

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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 2:00 pm
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No message, the program just goes away.

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Dave March
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 2:19 pm
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Are you using the demo version of the latest 3.1.18?

If the later please try running an install validation from the Options #2 menu

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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 8:07 pm
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No, I'm running the full version. I just purchased the software last week. I have found a workaround, if I choose an alternate in Plan-G everything works fine. I can do that going forward, it's just odd that requiring the alternate shuts down the program. But I'll do a validation after I land, see if there's something I'm missing.

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ThomasAH
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:50 pm
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Can you attach a flight plan file that triggers this problem?

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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:30 pm
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I did a validation, it said there were no errors, and I'm attached a .pln I created in Plan-G. It worked fine when I didn't try to add an alternate, and worked fine in P3D. I tried to add the .pln, but it was rejected because the uploaded file was identified as a possible attack vector.

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ThomasAH
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:51 pm
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Please put it inside a .zip

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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 2:35 pm
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Here you go. I thought perhaps it was because I hadn't added an alternate to the original Plan-G flight plan, but the program still closes either way.

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IFR Iqaluit to Nuuk [172R N9KTY].zip
(831 Bytes) Downloaded 235 times

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ThomasAH
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 3:46 pm
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Interesting plan.
It does not crash for me (using 3.2.0) when entering an alternate in PF3, but most of the waypoints don't show up.
I assume this is because they don't have an <ICAOIdent> value, for example:
        <ATCWaypoint id="DUTUM">
            <ATCWaypointType>User</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N63° 52' 01.20",W67° 0' 00.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
            <Descr>DUTUM</Descr>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="6465N">
            <ATCWaypointType>User</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N64° 0' 00.00",W65° 0' 00.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
            <Descr>6465N</Descr>
        </ATCWaypoint>
If I create own waypoints with PFPX, they look like this and work fine with PF3:
        <ATCWaypoint id="52N008E">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N52° 17' 00.00",E007° 49' 00.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>52N008E</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
Other software doesn't seem to like such flight plans either, see e.g. http://www.tasoftware.co.uk/forum/index ... pic=1979.0

Jeff, can you adjust the .pln file to have ICAO and ICAOIdent (or just don't use user waypoints for this test)?
Does it still crash with 3.2.0?

Dave, can you make PF3 fall back to using <Descr> if <ICAOIdent> isn't available?

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