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Author: | martinlest [ Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:25 pm ] |
Post subject: | Why 'descend' so soon? |
I'd love to know why, yet again, on a flight from Blackpool to Teeside in this instance, ATC says I can descend from cruise altitude, when I am still in easy sight of Blackpool Tower and the three piers. OK, 'when ready' but I only just got to cruise alt and have quite a long flight ahead of me (given I am flying a slow SAAB 340) before I even reach my flight plan's ToD. How can I set up my plans for PF3 differently so as not to be given descent instructions this early? I already usually add manual waypoints around the ToD of my PF3 version of the Little Navmap plan (I prefer to keep doing this in the end, than use the new option to 'clean' the plan of SID/STAR), supposedly to avoid thus, but ... Does the fact I am taking off initially heading west before 'doubling back' cause an issue perhaps? Thanks!! ![]() |
Author: | Dave March [ Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:05 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Why 'descend' so soon? |
Just change the altitudes... ERGAB ws set to 10,000 |
Author: | martinlest [ Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:45 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Why 'descend' so soon? |
Sorry to be a nuisance! I have tried setting PF3 altitudes closer to those in my flight plans (I usually do tweak them in fact), but that often gives me unexpected results too. Thought I'd leave this one untouched, but it didn't come out right either. As ever, matching up LNM flight plan (original), with PF3, with what appears in the aircraft FMC is a task and a half! |
Author: | Dave March [ Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:48 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Why 'descend' so soon? |
Well the Flight Plan Filter we help, if you used that. I know it's difficult because you guys haven't got the updated user guide but that should be complete very soon and then I'll release it. Here's what's available right now and I've highlighted what would seem to be exactly what you're looking for.
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Author: | martinlest [ Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:32 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Why 'descend' so soon? |
Well, I'll give it another try Dave, thanks. Thing is though, as PF3 tends to give instructions (e.g. descent) as it reaches waypoints, if there are long segments immediately before ToD, I always add some false waypoints (into my PF3 copy of the plan only) so that ATC doesn't instruct me to descend too early (or that's the theory, anyway!!). So, if the waypoint prior to T0D is, say, 50nms away, then rather than have PF3 instruct me to descend there, I will add a 'dummy' waypoint much closer to the ToD. Kind of works, though it's a bit hit and miss very often. Not sure how that will work if I use the filter instead. Maybe I just add the waypoints anyway - but then I am back to having a separate flight plan for PF3 (I don't want those dummy waypoints in the plan I put into my FMC), as now, which kind of defeats the object. |
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