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Author:	A320Flyer [ Mon Nov 13, 2023 5:05 pm ]
Post subject:	Problem flight

Hi.

I've tried to do this flight (EGNM to EHAM) a couple of times now but get the same issue:

LAMI2W LAMIX L603 LAMSO MONIL PETIK

At the completion of the SID, Leeds Departure does not hand me off, nor give me instruction to climb. I am held at FL070 for the duration of the flight then handed over to Schipol Approach.

I have adjusted the flightplan to indicate the end of the SID , followed with my cruise alt. as shown near my expected TOC.

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I have also tried just adding the end of the SID on it own - same result.

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks for any help.

Bill

Author:	A320Flyer [ Mon Nov 13, 2023 5:07 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Problem flight

Oops, forgot to add log:

Author:	Dave March [ Mon Nov 13, 2023 5:59 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Problem flight

That's the wrong log... please attach the OLD_Debug log

Author:	A320Flyer [ Mon Nov 13, 2023 7:55 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Problem flight

Attached

old_debug_monitor.zip
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Author:	Dave March [ Tue Nov 14, 2023 9:06 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Problem flight

Unfortunately that logs is also empty, I guess you must have done one or more flights since the issue?

Not much I can do without a log file I'm afraid but please report again should you have the same problem and to be on the safe side include both the logs

Author:	A320Flyer [ Tue Nov 14, 2023 9:08 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Problem flight

Hi Dave,

I tried the same flight again with the same results. Logs attached.

Thanks for looking into this.
Bill

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Author:	Dave March [ Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:39 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Problem flight

Thanks for the new log.

The problem here was you entered 7000' as a new altitude at waypoint #2 (as your end of SID), but PF3 should not have allowed you to do that without changing the altitude at waypoint #1 from FL330. So what's happened is you reached 7000' long before reaching WP #2, in fact when you were still 46 miles from WP #1, at which point SID Mode was deactivated. Then, on reaching WP #1 PF3 calculated the next altitude call and because WP 2# was below WP #1 it assumed you had begun your decent and so entered descent mode... hence why you got no further climb instructions.

So, in the interim I would suggest you check your flight profile carefully and I shall check why PF3 failed to stop you making the mistake, but that won't be till I release the next beta.

Thanks for highlighting another bug

Edit: In fact you don't have to change that altitude to 7000 if it's a SID restriction (if it was you missed it anyway!

). If you want the SID to be complete by a certain altitude rather than a waypoint you can so so on the main SID/STAR page.

Author:	A320Flyer [ Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:23 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Problem flight

Hi Dave,

Thanks for the response.

I already have the Alt set in the SIDS/STARS page like this:

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Are you saying just to leave the Alts in the FP page as is, like this?:

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If so, I'll try the flight again and see what happens.

Bill

I didnt think you'd notice I missed the Altitude. My excuse: new aircraft

Author:	Dave March [ Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:24 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Problem flight

Quote:
Are you saying just to leave the Alts in the FP page as is, like this?

Yes indeed. I mean if you did need to change WP 3 to 7,000 for some reason you would have to change WP2 to 7000 or below to make it a valid profile. The next version of PF3 will ensure you can't do what you did but till then... be careful.

Author:	A320Flyer [ Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:35 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Problem flight

Tried that revised flight and all went well

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