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martinlest
Post subject: Final descent altitudes wrong
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:58 pm
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At first I thought this was my mistake somehow, but since the last update (wasn't happening before), ATC seems to be giving a final descent altitude of 2000ft, irrespective of the elevation of the arrival airport.

Flying in to Bangalore VOBL just now, I was again instructed to descend to 2000', but the airport is at an elevation of 3000' (so I should have got an instruction for 5000').

Or is PF3 being given incorrect information somehow? Runways.csv has the airport at 3000', I checked...

Thanks

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Dave March
Post subject: Re: Final descent altitudes wrong
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 4:27 pm
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There appears to be something strange going on with your flight plan. If you look at the first few line you will see the altitude is set to 27'
Quote:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<SimBase.Document Type="AceXML" version="1,0">
<Descr>AceXML Document</Descr>
<FlightPlan.FlightPlan>
<Title>VCBI to VOBL</Title>
<FPType>IFR</FPType>
<RouteType>HighAlt</RouteType>
<CruisingAlt>36000</CruisingAlt>
<DepartureID>VCBI</DepartureID>
<DepartureLLA>N7° 10' 47.93",E79° 53' 4.83",+000027.00</DepartureLLA>
<DestinationID>VOBL</DestinationID>
<DestinationLLA>N7° 10' 47.93",E79° 53' 4.83",+000027.00</DestinationLLA>
In fact you can see it's duplicated all the data for your departure
Quote:
<DepartureLLA>N7° 10' 47.93",E79° 53' 4.83",+000027.00</DepartureLLA>

<DestinationLLA>N7° 10' 47.93",E79° 53' 4.83",+000027.00</DestinationLLA>

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martinlest
Post subject: Re: Final descent altitudes wrong
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:07 pm
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Yes, I just noticed that myself: the flight plan that I loaded into PF3 before connecting to the sim (.pln format) has the destination at 3000' at the end - I'll copy it below (for general perusal! I know you can see it from the log). No idea why I end up with the same elevation for the destination as the departure at the start of the plan..

As I say, it isn't a one-off, I had a similar thing last time I flew (a different flight plan). Looks like the programme I use to create my flight plans (Little Navmap) may have gone wrong at the last update. I'll contact their support and see what they say.

Thanks Dave.

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<SimBase.Document Type="AceXML" version="1,0">
<Descr>AceXML Document</Descr>
<FlightPlan.FlightPlan>
<Title>VCBI to VOBL</Title>
<FPType>IFR</FPType>
<RouteType>HighAlt</RouteType>
<CruisingAlt>36000</CruisingAlt>
<DepartureID>VCBI</DepartureID>
<DepartureLLA>N7° 10' 47.93",E79° 53' 4.83",+000027.00</DepartureLLA>
<DestinationID>VOBL</DestinationID>
<DestinationLLA>N7° 10' 47.93",E79° 53' 4.83",+000027.00</DestinationLLA>
<Descr>VCBI, VOBL</Descr>
<DeparturePosition>04</DeparturePosition>
<DepartureName>Colombo Bandaranaike</DepartureName>
<DestinationName>Kempegowda Intl</DestinationName>
<AppVersion>
<AppVersionMajor>10</AppVersionMajor>
<AppVersionBuild>61472</AppVersionBuild>
</AppVersion>
<ATCWaypoint id="VCBI">
<ATCWaypointType>Airport</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N7° 10' 47.93",E79° 53' 4.83",+000027.00</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>VCBI</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="BI646">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N7° 51' 47.00",E79° 55' 36.99",+017045.29</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAORegion>VC</ICAORegion>
<ICAOIdent>BI646</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="ATETA">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N9° 19' 6.00",E79° 38' 55.01",+036000.00</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAORegion>VO</ICAORegion>
<ICAOIdent>ATETA</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="TTR">
<ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N10° 46' 7.22",E78° 43' 29.17",+036000.00</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAORegion>VO</ICAORegion>
<ICAOIdent>TTR</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="ADKAL">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N11° 50' 54.00",E78° 16' 49.01",+029451.34</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAORegion>VO</ICAORegion>
<ICAOIdent>ADKAL</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="BL810">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N12° 35' 13.40",E77° 58' 58.45",+015154.26</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAORegion>VO</ICAORegion>
<ICAOIdent>BL810</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="VOBL">
<ATCWaypointType>Airport</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N13° 12' 18.85",E77° 42' 18.64",+003000.00</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>VOBL</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
</FlightPlan.FlightPlan>
</SimBase.Document>


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martinlest
Post subject: Re: Final descent altitudes wrong
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:17 pm
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.. yes, clearly a problem with the flight plan: I've edited them all with a text editor and reported the problem to the developer (who fortunately is just as 'on the ball' re. support as Oncourse!).

Thanks and sorry for wasting your time..


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Dave March
Post subject: Re: Final descent altitudes wrong
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:21 pm
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That's great, thanks for letting me now and it's never a waste of time... got me a little worried at first though! :shock:

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