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Post subject: Taking the Runway- No 6 key
Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:55 pm
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I've had no problems using the command "Taking the runway" when tuned to 122.80 before but lately when trying to depart from Little Derby Island in the Bahamas (MYXF), PFE CTD every time I press the 6 key. I have done all that bad installation stuff numerous times at initial installion. Do i have to re-install or is this known to happen when using that function at some airfields?

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Dave March
Post subject: Re: Taking the Runway- No 6 key
Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 5:19 pm
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Next time it happens please send me the debug_monitor.log file from your PFE\Logs folder and I'll take a look

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CoolP
Post subject: Re: Taking the Runway- No 6 key
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:10 am
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Hi there ...

Same problem here on the smaller fields where you "talk to yourself" and therefor take the runway ... PFE just stops and quits without a message when hitting "6". First thought it might be an old database and so I updated it, but on some fields the error is reproducible.

I have another one ... don´t know if I should start a new topic:
When departing from a seaplane base it often tells me that PFE can´t be used because the airport has no runway. Buttons are greyed out then and i´can get them to work.
Happend a few times now around the great tongass fjords. My flight planner (Plan-G) shows runway data (e. g. 60 x 1300m water). Will collect log-files too if this helps you :|

Which log du you need then? I´ve got 8 - "debug_monitor" sounds best, doesn´t it?
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CoolP
Post subject: Re: Taking the Runway- No 6 key
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:54 am
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So there´re some screenshots of the error message, the runway data read via plan-g and the log for this case.

PFE message
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runway data
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Log:
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12.03.2010 09:47:43: 500 - ****** Using FSX airport data ******
12.03.2010 09:47:43: 500 - Conversion started...

Converted data for 9C0 WP:0
End of Converted data for 9C0 WP:0

NEW data for 9C0 WP:0
End of NEW data for 9C0 WP:0
12.03.2010 09:47:43: 510 - ------ End of 9C0 data ------

Converted data for ANN WP:1

Usage set to: 0
Rwy Num: 30 ( 30 )
Rwy Ltr: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy ILS: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy Typ: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy Lat: 55.03433 ( 55.03433 )
Rwy Lon: -131.5627 ( -131.5627 )
Rwy Hdg: 300 ( 300 )
Rwy Len: 7493 ( 7493 )
FAF Lat: 54.85451 ( 54.85451 )
FAF Lon: -131.3523 ( -131.3523 )

Usage set to: 0
Rwy Num: 12 ( 12 )
Rwy Ltr: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy ILS: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy Typ: 0 ( 0 )
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Rwy Hdg: 120 ( 120 )
Rwy Len: 7493 ( 7493 )
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FAF Lon: -131.7942 ( -131.7942 )

Usage set to: 0
Rwy Num: 20 ( 20 )
Rwy Ltr: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy ILS: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy Typ: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy Lat: 55.04758 ( 55.04758 )
Rwy Lon: -131.563 ( -131.563 )
Rwy Hdg: 200 ( 200 )
Rwy Len: 5709 ( 5709 )
FAF Lat: 55.19777 ( 55.19777 )
FAF Lon: -131.2899 ( -131.2899 )

Usage set to: 0
Rwy Num: 2 ( 02 )
Rwy Ltr: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy ILS: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy Typ: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy Lat: 55.03734 ( 55.03734 )
Rwy Lon: -131.5815 ( -131.5815 )
Rwy Hdg: 20 ( 20 )
Rwy Len: 5709 ( 5709 )
FAF Lat: 54.88653 ( 54.88653 )
FAF Lon: -131.8525 ( -131.8525 )

End of Converted data for ANN WP:1

NEW data for ANN WP:1
End of NEW data for ANN WP:1
12.03.2010 09:47:43: 510 - ------ End of ANN data ------

Converted data for ANN WP:2

Usage set to: 0
Rwy Num: 30 ( 30 )
Rwy Ltr: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy ILS: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy Typ: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy Lat: 55.03433 ( 55.03433 )
Rwy Lon: -131.5627 ( -131.5627 )
Rwy Hdg: 300 ( 300 )
Rwy Len: 7493 ( 7493 )
FAF Lat: 54.85451 ( 54.85451 )
FAF Lon: -131.3523 ( -131.3523 )

Usage set to: 0
Rwy Num: 12 ( 12 )
Rwy Ltr: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy ILS: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy Typ: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy Lat: 55.05059 ( 55.05059 )
Rwy Lon: -131.5818 ( -131.5818 )
Rwy Hdg: 120 ( 120 )
Rwy Len: 7493 ( 7493 )
FAF Lat: 55.23004 ( 55.23004 )
FAF Lon: -131.7942 ( -131.7942 )

Usage set to: 0
Rwy Num: 20 ( 20 )
Rwy Ltr: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy ILS: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy Typ: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy Lat: 55.04758 ( 55.04758 )
Rwy Lon: -131.563 ( -131.563 )
Rwy Hdg: 200 ( 200 )
Rwy Len: 5709 ( 5709 )
FAF Lat: 55.19777 ( 55.19777 )
FAF Lon: -131.2899 ( -131.2899 )

Usage set to: 0
Rwy Num: 2 ( 02 )
Rwy Ltr: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy ILS: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy Typ: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy Lat: 55.03734 ( 55.03734 )
Rwy Lon: -131.5815 ( -131.5815 )
Rwy Hdg: 20 ( 20 )
Rwy Len: 5709 ( 5709 )
FAF Lat: 54.88653 ( 54.88653 )
FAF Lon: -131.8525 ( -131.8525 )

End of Converted data for ANN WP:2

NEW data for ANN WP:2
End of NEW data for ANN WP:2
12.03.2010 09:47:43: 510 - ------ End of ANN data ------

Converted data for ANN WP:3

Usage set to: 0
Rwy Num: 30 ( 30 )
Rwy Ltr: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy ILS: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy Typ: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy Lat: 55.03433 ( 55.03433 )
Rwy Lon: -131.5627 ( -131.5627 )
Rwy Hdg: 300 ( 300 )
Rwy Len: 7493 ( 7493 )
FAF Lat: 54.85451 ( 54.85451 )
FAF Lon: -131.3523 ( -131.3523 )

Usage set to: 0
Rwy Num: 12 ( 12 )
Rwy Ltr: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy ILS: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy Typ: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy Lat: 55.05059 ( 55.05059 )
Rwy Lon: -131.5818 ( -131.5818 )
Rwy Hdg: 120 ( 120 )
Rwy Len: 7493 ( 7493 )
FAF Lat: 55.23004 ( 55.23004 )
FAF Lon: -131.7942 ( -131.7942 )

Usage set to: 0
Rwy Num: 20 ( 20 )
Rwy Ltr: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy ILS: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy Typ: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy Lat: 55.04758 ( 55.04758 )
Rwy Lon: -131.563 ( -131.563 )
Rwy Hdg: 200 ( 200 )
Rwy Len: 5709 ( 5709 )
FAF Lat: 55.19777 ( 55.19777 )
FAF Lon: -131.2899 ( -131.2899 )

Usage set to: 0
Rwy Num: 2 ( 02 )
Rwy Ltr: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy ILS: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy Typ: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy Lat: 55.03734 ( 55.03734 )
Rwy Lon: -131.5815 ( -131.5815 )
Rwy Hdg: 20 ( 20 )
Rwy Len: 5709 ( 5709 )
FAF Lat: 54.88653 ( 54.88653 )
FAF Lon: -131.8525 ( -131.8525 )

End of Converted data for ANN WP:3

NEW data for ANN WP:3
End of NEW data for ANN WP:3
12.03.2010 09:47:43: 510 - ------ End of ANN data ------

Converted data for CYPR WP:4

Usage set to: 0
Rwy Num: 31 ( 31 )
Rwy Ltr: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy ILS: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy Typ: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy Lat: 54.27877 ( 54.27837 )
Rwy Lon: -130.4376 ( -130.4371 )
Rwy Hdg: 309 ( 310 )
Rwy Len: 6000 ( 6046 )
FAF Lat: 54.08629 ( 54.08629 )
FAF Lon: -130.2676 ( -130.2676 )

Usage set to: 0
Rwy Num: 13 ( 13 )
Rwy Ltr: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy ILS: 109.7 ( 109.7 )
Rwy Typ: 2 ( 1 )
Rwy Lat: 54.29266 ( 54.29301 )
Rwy Lon: -130.4499 ( -130.4504 )
Rwy Hdg: 129 ( 130 )
Rwy Len: 6000 ( 6046 )
FAF Lat: 54.48489 ( 54.48489 )
FAF Lon: -130.6216 ( -130.6216 )

End of Converted data for CYPR WP:4

NEW data for CYPR WP:4
End of NEW data for CYPR WP:4
12.03.2010 09:47:43: 510 - ------ End of CYPR data ------

Converted data for CYPR WP:5

Usage set to: 0
Rwy Num: 31 ( 31 )
Rwy Ltr: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy ILS: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy Typ: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy Lat: 54.27877 ( 54.27837 )
Rwy Lon: -130.4376 ( -130.4371 )
Rwy Hdg: 309 ( 310 )
Rwy Len: 6000 ( 6046 )
FAF Lat: 54.08629 ( 54.08629 )
FAF Lon: -130.2676 ( -130.2676 )

Usage set to: 0
Rwy Num: 13 ( 13 )
Rwy Ltr: 0 ( 0 )
Rwy ILS: 109.7 ( 109.7 )
Rwy Typ: 2 ( 1 )
Rwy Lat: 54.29266 ( 54.29301 )
Rwy Lon: -130.4499 ( -130.4504 )
Rwy Hdg: 129 ( 130 )
Rwy Len: 6000 ( 6046 )
FAF Lat: 54.48489 ( 54.48489 )
FAF Lon: -130.6216 ( -130.6216 )

End of Converted data for CYPR WP:5

NEW data for CYPR WP:5
End of NEW data for CYPR WP:5
12.03.2010 09:47:43: 510 - ------ End of CYPR data ------
Conversion Complete

PF FAF Alt set to 2900

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Flight Plan Detail
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9C0 - 0
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Dave March
Post subject: Re: Taking the Runway- No 6 key
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:59 pm
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PFE will not work if there are no runways

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CoolP
Post subject: Re: Taking the Runway- No 6 key
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:29 pm
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Thanks for your answer. :)

So the data showing up on the FSX map or planners like Plan-G doesn´t count as runway?

Then could I suggest a small fix to "interpret" this data as runway because for example in the new FTX NA Blue or the older Tongass Fjords there´re a lot of water runways to be explored and enjoyed.

Starting with planes on floats results in a departure and arrival destination on water, so even the workaround with using a nearby airport with concrete runways as target is hardly possible. :cry:

Any chance?
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Dave March
Post subject: Re: Taking the Runway- No 6 key
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:42 pm
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I'll put it on my list of things to look into but won't make any promises

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CoolP
Post subject: Re: Taking the Runway- No 6 key
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:54 pm
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Thanks again for answering so fast.

Would be great to enjoy ATC coverage on "wet" flights :)


Keep your feet dry and thanks for your great support
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