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Author:  drumsart [ Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:28 am ]
Post subject:  Some problems with my last flight...

Hi,

Well, during my last Ifr flight (EGPH to EGPE), the clearance was : climb Alt 3000 then FL80 ten minutes after departure.

After the resume own navigation, departure control left me at Alt3000, I never received the order to climb to my cruising altitude FL80.

After a moment I decided to climb. Of course departure control says me to descend and maintain 3000 (no problem it's normal).

Then departure asked me to contact approach (I was at + 65 miles of my destination :shock: . At this subject PF3 everytime (very often) asks me to contact approach control at +-80 miles...!? Is it normal ?).

I did and asked for an altitude higher because of the clouds. I got "climb and maintain FL90"...fine. Then approach says me to contact the "enroute" center then this center says me to contact approach.

After landing and vacated runway the tower sent me a message as "report downwind" or something !

Last but not least, I have from the day one in all PF3 versions the following :
Just after Taking Off and entered the departure frequency, the center contact me with the radar contact message before I contact him. I thought this "glitch" was fixed in the last version !?

Find attached logs and FP in the same Zip file
Thank you and Regards,

Richard Portier

Author:  ThomasAH [ Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Some problems with my last flight...

drumsart wrote: *  Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:28 am
Well, during my last Ifr flight (EGPH to EGPE), the clearance was : climb Alt 3000 then FL80 ten minutes after departure.

After the resume own navigation, departure control left me at Alt3000, I never received the order to climb to my cruising altitude FL80.
This is a known issue and has only been fixed in the latest beta (3.3.4) from yesterday.
drumsart wrote: *  Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:28 am
After a moment I decided to climb. Of course departure control says me to descend and maintain 3000 (no problem it's normal).

Then departure asked me to contact approach (I was at + 65 miles of my destination :shock: . At this subject PF3 everytime (very often) asks me to contact approach control at +-80 miles...!? Is it normal ?).
Your cruise altitude was 8000 feet, which is the default center altitude. This sometimes caused handoffs to Approach for me, too, when flying only few feet below 8000.
Dave changed the behaviour in 3.3.3 to make this better, now it should be:

Handoff to Center triggered when your altitude is >= xxx
Handoff to Approach when your altitude is <= xxx - 250

(but I haven't tested this yet)
drumsart wrote: *  Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:28 am
After landing and vacated runway the tower sent me a message as "report downwind" or something !
04/04/2017 06:21:22: 050 - Transcript: 'Lancair Fox-Trot Papa Victor November November Contact Tower on 122.6 when clear of the active  '
04/04/2017 06:21:42: 710 - ****** HotKey #10 detected!
04/04/2017 06:22:53: 830 - ****** HotKey #2 detected!
04/04/2017 06:22:56: 030 - Transcript: 'Lancair Fox-Trot Papa Victor November November report turning base  '
Hotkey #10 is Roger. With Hotkey #2 you reported entering Downwind, which is always followed by "report turning base". Do you think it is worth adding code to catch this and reply something more suitable? Or just assume that this might happen in real-life, too, if a pilot reports turning base while on the ground?
drumsart wrote: *  Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:28 am
Last but not least, I have from the day one in all PF3 versions the following :
Just after Taking Off and entered the departure frequency, the center contact me with the radar contact message before I contact him. I thought this "glitch" was fixed in the last version !?
Unfortunately this has not been fixed yet, I have just asked Dave to raise the priority for this.
If I'm very quick with check-in after changing the frequency, this is OK for me. But if I'm not, I just check-in afterwards, because otherwise problems may occur.

Author:  drumsart [ Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Some problems with my last flight...

ThomasAH wrote: *  Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:32 am
drumsart wrote: *  Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:28 am
Well, during my last Ifr flight (EGPH to EGPE), the clearance was : climb Alt 3000 then FL80 ten minutes after departure.

After the resume own navigation, departure control left me at Alt3000, I never received the order to climb to my cruising altitude FL80.
This is a known issue and has only been fixed in the latest beta (3.3.4) from yesterday.
Great to know ! Hope the update will come soon !? 8-)
drumsart wrote: *  Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:28 am
After a moment I decided to climb. Of course departure control says me to descend and maintain 3000 (no problem it's normal).

Then departure asked me to contact approach (I was at + 65 miles of my destination :shock: . At this subject PF3 everytime (very often) asks me to contact approach control at +-80 miles...!? Is it normal ?).
Your cruise altitude was 8000 feet, which is the default center altitude. This sometimes caused handoffs to Approach for me, too, when flying only few feet below 8000.
Dave changed the behaviour in 3.3.3 to make this better, now it should be:

Handoff to Center triggered when your altitude is >= xxx
Handoff to Approach when your altitude is <= xxx - 250

(but I haven't tested this yet)
Is possible to change the default center altitude ?
drumsart wrote: *  Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:28 am
After landing and vacated runway the tower sent me a message as "report downwind" or something !
04/04/2017 06:21:22: 050 - Transcript: 'Lancair Fox-Trot Papa Victor November November Contact Tower on 122.6 when clear of the active  '
04/04/2017 06:21:42: 710 - ****** HotKey #10 detected!
04/04/2017 06:22:53: 830 - ****** HotKey #2 detected!
04/04/2017 06:22:56: 030 - Transcript: 'Lancair Fox-Trot Papa Victor November November report turning base  '
Hotkey #10 is Roger. With Hotkey #2 you reported entering Downwind, which is always followed by "report turning base". Do you think it is worth adding code to catch this and reply something more suitable? Or just assume that this might happen in real-life, too, if a pilot reports turning base while on the ground?
I thought it was a "glitch" because I don't remember to have used the hotkey "2". I flied in voice mode with Mce. Of course no need to add code to catch this and reply something more suitable. Understood.
drumsart wrote: *  Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:28 am
Last but not least, I have from the day one in all PF3 versions the following :
Just after Taking Off and entered the departure frequency, the center contact me with the radar contact message before I contact him. I thought this "glitch" was fixed in the last version !?
Unfortunately this has not been fixed yet, I have just asked Dave to raise the priority for this.
If I'm very quick with check-in after changing the frequency, this is OK for me. But if I'm not, I just check-in afterwards, because otherwise problems may occur.
Great to hear it will be fixed one day !
Thank you Thomas for your answer.
Regards,
Richard

Author:  ThomasAH [ Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Some problems with my last flight...

drumsart wrote: *  Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:21 am
Is possible to change the default center altitude ?
You can set new center altitudes in PF3's Options #2.

Author:  drumsart [ Sat Apr 08, 2017 11:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Some problems with my last flight...

ThomasAH wrote: *  Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:04 pm
drumsart wrote: *  Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:21 am
Is possible to change the default center altitude ?
You can set new center altitudes in PF3's Options #2.
Thanks, forgot that... :roll:
Richard

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