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| Author: | RALF9636 [ Sat Oct 15, 2016 8:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Vectors in uncontrolled airspace and nagging |
| On a VFR flight Departure approved me a frequency change to Approach. There was no handoff to Center, probably because my cruising altitude was below the Center altitude. But that is another topic (viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2261) I don't want to discuss again here. I did not yet check in with Approach to avoid being handed off back to Center on so on. Even though I was told to turn to a certain heading. I didn't comply because I was in uncontrolled airspace flying VFR (I know I should always comply to ATC, but what if there would have been a mountain in that direction?). Though I had set the "ATC heading nag" to 0, I was nagged repeatedly to turn. Later I checked in with Approach when I got closer. More nagging because of the heading. Finally I was told to report airport in sight, what I did. The rest was flawless. So two issues here: 1. As far as I know I should not be vectored when flying VFR in uncontrolled airspace (maybe unless to avoid traffic, that wasn't the case here). I guess PF3 gave me the direct course to my destination or next waypoint. But often enough I don't want to fly a direct course when flying VFR. I might have to follow the terrain and a direct course might be impossible due to clouds / terrain. Is it possible to stop PF3 from giving me vectors when flying VFR in uncontrolled airspace? And if not: Could the phrase be changed from "turn to heading ..." to "the Airport/next waypoint is at ..."? 2. I was repeatedly nagged even though I had set "ATC heading nag" to 0. Thanks for looking at this. Ralf |
| Author: | ThomasAH [ Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Vectors in uncontrolled airspace and nagging |
| Setting ATC Hdg Nag does not disable it, but enables immediate nagging. I don't know why ATC tried to vector you, but if they do, you have to comply. You could set ATC Hdg Nag to a really high value, but in the end you have to comply anyway, because otherwise PF3 might not continue processing the next step. |
| Author: | RALF9636 [ Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Vectors in uncontrolled airspace and nagging |
| Ok, I thought setting it to 0 would turn it off. But I was nagged only every one or two minutes nevertheless. Something strange happened on the return flight. Right after takeoff I was told again to turn to the same heading I was told to turn to on the previous flight. Made no sense this time, totally wrong direction. And this time I actually was nagged every second. I finally made a 360 and it stopped. Maybe this is connected to this topic concerning problems with Turnaround flights? viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2284 It seems PF3 remembers things from previous flights, it shouldn't. I did not close PF3 before the return flight. And as I said, I am aware that I should comply to ATC. But there should be the chance for a reply like "unable due to terrain". Or to completely turn of the vectoring when flying VFR in uncontrolled airspace. |
| Author: | ThomasAH [ Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Vectors in uncontrolled airspace and nagging |
| Yes, that could be the problem. Dave, can you verify? |
| Author: | Dave March [ Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Vectors in uncontrolled airspace and nagging |
| Yu shouldn't be getting vectors on VFR flight like this... I will look into it for the next release |
| Author: | RALF9636 [ Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Vectors in uncontrolled airspace and nagging |
| Thanks! |
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