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 Post subject: Radio and IFR
PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:29 pm 
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Many airfields do not have control towers so its necessary to start a flight using the radio. However, in the case of an IFR flight, that will not provide ongoing instructions such as direction and altitude to fly to.

Can someone kindly tell me please (simply 'cos I'm dim) how I can; a) contact the nearest tower and b) open an IFR flight plan with that tower?

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John


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 Post subject: Re: Radio and IFR
PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:34 pm 
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This was taken from the Version History document...
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ADDED a new procedure for obtaining clearance from FSS when departing from an uncontrolled airport. Here's how it works. Tune to FSS and hit hotkey #0, this is your 'wake up' call to FSS... there could be a delay of up to 30 seconds so be patient, they're not ATC controllers. Once they put their coffee down they will ask you to 'go ahead' at which point, if you're using VCP mode 1, otherwise it will be automatic),you can either hit the 'Roger' hotkey or hotkey #0 again. Your VCP will then provide the necessary details regarding your flight plan to FSS, after which they will clear you as filed, give you an initial altitude and also the frequency for Departure, which of course you should contact asap after takeoff. Obviously this new feature is only available when your are at your departure airport.
And this was taken from the PF3 User Guide...
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20.3 Uncontrolled Airports
Should you find yourself departing from an uncontrolled airport, without Clearance, Tower or Ground control facilities you could be excused for asking 'how on earth do obtain IFR clearance in such a situation'?
New in PF3 version 3.2.0 we have introduced support for obtaining IFR clearance from FSS. Here's how it works...
First you need to tune to FSS and hit hotkey #0, this is your 'wake up' call to FSS... there could be a delay of up to 30 seconds so be patient, they're not ATC controllers. Once they put their coffee down they will ask you to 'go ahead' at which point, if you're using VCP mode 1, otherwise it will be automatic, you can either hit the 'Roger' hotkey or hotkey #0 again.
On doing so your VCP will provide the necessary details regarding your flight plan to FSS, after which they will clear you as filed, give you an initial altitude and also the frequency for Departure, which of course you should contact asap after takeoff. Obviously this new feature is only available when your are at your departure airport.

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 Post subject: Re: Radio and IFR
PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:41 pm 
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Yes, well Dave. Thanks for this but you've hit the nail on the head because no matter how I try I can't tune to FSS!

John


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 Post subject: Re: Radio and IFR
PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 5:42 pm 
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Then you're obviously dialling the incorrect frequency.

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 Post subject: Re: Radio and IFR
PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 12:20 pm 
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Its more basic than that Dave. Do I just type in 'FSS' ?

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 Post subject: Re: Radio and IFR
PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:52 pm 
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No, type in where though?

All you need is the FSS frequency and if there's none available at your departure airport just use the default 122.00. Dial that into your COMs radio and hit #0

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 Post subject: Re: Radio and IFR
PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:01 pm 
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No, type in where though?

All you need is the FSS frequency and if there's none available at your departure airport just use the default 122.00. Dial that into your COMs radio and hit #0
122.20

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 Post subject: Re: Radio and IFR
PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:25 pm 
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:lol: Why do I get the impresion that its the blind leading the blind here!

Thanks Thomas. I'll try that.

John


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 Post subject: Re: Radio and IFR
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:23 pm 
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I must admit though that 122.20 seems to work well.

Thank you.

John


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 Post subject: Re: Radio and IFR
PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:36 pm 
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I'm still confused though. Can some kind soul tell me what the letters 'FSS' stand for please.

John


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