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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:32 pm 

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I don't think I can be the only one who, although very grateful for the years of pleasure I got from FS9 (and to a far lesser extent, FSX!), has realised that even FSX is now old technology and that the ever-developing X-Plane (now v.11.21) brings levels of sophistication undreamed of in the Microsoft sim. I have flown nothing else for almost a year now and feel I have hardly scratched the surface of its possibilities...

The one programme that I very much want to keep from MSFS though is PF3 - another developing bit of software. I am sure that Dave M must share my views on X-Plane (at least I hope he does, to some extent at least!) and be looking for ways to further allow PF3 to work with that programme. With the installation of the (third-party) PFEtoXplane plugin, many things in PF3 work just as they did in FS9 (although updating the PF3 database for XP is still not possible via PF3).

Well, I would like to ask what steps (I understand there are some?) are being taken to integrate PF3 with World Traffic 3 (AI traffic programme in X-Plane). WT3 does have its own ATC element, but since I am very keen to stick with PF3 (the loss of FDC when I moved to XP was enough!) I am hoping that some things are being worked on. For instance, WT3 and PF3 do not 'speak to each other', so that PF3 clears me onto occupied runways, or AI traffic from WT3 lands and takes off oblivious to the fact that my aircraft is on the runway.

If there is currently a way to fix this latter issue that I am unaware of, I'd be grateful to know what it is. I also hope that others who use PF3 would also appreciate it working as fully as possible in XP11 and its addons, 'cos if I am about the only one here who has switched to XP11 (surely not!) then things don't look too good for me! PF3 is like an old friend in a new environment (i.e. X-Plane) and I really would hate to lose it to WT3's ATC (which may be brilliant as far as I know - I haven't tried it).

Many thanks!


PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:49 pm 
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Hi Martin,

Unfortunately I currently have no plans to make a fully compatible version of PF3 that will work with X-Plane. In fact I simply would not know where to start. As you know, PF3 works as well as it does with FS9/FSX/P3D simply due to the programming expertise of Pete Dowson in his FSUIPC module, without which so many of the well loved FS addons would cease to exist. Such interfacing is beyond my level of expertise and as such we will have to wait and hope some aspiring developer will provide a similar module for X-Plane in the not too distant future.

Sorry if I've dampened your spirits. ;)


Dave March

Email: dmarch@oncourse-software.co.uk

Without a log it didn't happen!


PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:35 pm 

Joined: Sun Dec 26, 2010 4:33 pm
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That's OK Dave, I kind of guessed that that would be the case. But maybe you are in the best position to approach people who, as you say, might be interested in developing this further?

Meanwhile, I might (??) be able to run WT3 ATC in a kind of 'silent mode', so that AI traffic won't behave as if my user plane doesn't exist - I'd have to ask on the WT3 forum about that.

Martin ;)

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:02 pm 

Joined: Tue Aug 30, 2016 4:44 pm
Posts: 219
I suspect the problem with X plane is that they still have a relatively tiny market share compared to FSX-P3D. Not attractive to many developers.

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