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reecemj wrote: *

Sun Aug 06, 2017 4:20 pm

Same here yesterday only flying at 7000. Got handed to approach 150 miles from airport. No departure hand off.

reecemj wrote: *

Sun Aug 06, 2017 4:20 pm

Same here yesterday only flying at 7000. Got handed to approach 150 miles from airport. No departure hand off.

Mike T wrote: *

Sun Aug 06, 2017 3:34 pm

Bug 1: Prior to ATC beginning the STAR clearance to final at the transition fix I am handed off to approach while still at cruise - which is too high to be handed off to approach. I've verified this twice on two separate flights. As I am approaching my STAR transition fix Center now hands me off to Approach which delivers the STAR instructions instead of center giving it. This is more of a distraction than broken functionality because the end result is still the same, however it is strange (and incorrect) to be told to contact approach at FL350 .

Bug 2: This one has always been there but I'm surprised that no one has said anything. During ATC chatter aircraft report that "Airline <x> is out of <altitude>", which is only one half of the required sentence. The correct comms should be "Airline <x> is out of <altitude> for <altitude>." Again, more of a distraction than broken functionality, but every time I hear it I finish the sentence in my head and wonder if this can be programmatically fixed or it is the way it is because it cannot be fixed.

Again, I'm flying in Prepar3d v4 and I don't remember Bug 1 in FSX. Bug 2 is legacy and has always been there through both product evolutions.

Mike T.

Dan77 wrote: *

Sun Aug 06, 2017 5:21 pm

reecemj wrote: *

Sun Aug 06, 2017 4:20 pm

Same here yesterday only flying at 7000. Got handed to approach 150 miles from airport. No departure hand off.

You should have been handed from Departure to Center when passing through Center altitude, which is user-configurable. Please post the logs so we can have a look.

dmarch wrote: *

Sun Aug 06, 2017 5:21 pm

Mike T wrote: *

Sun Aug 06, 2017 3:34 pm

Bug 1: Prior to ATC beginning the STAR clearance to final at the transition fix I am handed off to approach while still at cruise - which is too high to be handed off to approach. I've verified this twice on two separate flights. As I am approaching my STAR transition fix Center now hands me off to Approach which delivers the STAR instructions instead of center giving it. This is more of a distraction than broken functionality because the end result is still the same, however it is strange (and incorrect) to be told to contact approach at FL350 .

Bug 2: This one has always been there but I'm surprised that no one has said anything. During ATC chatter aircraft report that "Airline <x> is out of <altitude>", which is only one half of the required sentence. The correct comms should be "Airline <x> is out of <altitude> for <altitude>." Again, more of a distraction than broken functionality, but every time I hear it I finish the sentence in my head and wonder if this can be programmatically fixed or it is the way it is because it cannot be fixed.

Again, I'm flying in Prepar3d v4 and I don't remember Bug 1 in FSX. Bug 2 is legacy and has always been there through both product evolutions.

Mike T.

For Bug #1 isn't that down to you're flight planning? i'e You reach the STAR transition at cruise?

I would like to see the log file for that flight please

For Bug #2 I'll certainly take a look but again would need the log

Mike T wrote: *

Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:09 am

Bug #1 - Yes, I almost always start my transition to the STAR at cruise since most STARs are designed that way. For instance I'm flying from KSEA to KLAX using the REBRG.IRNMN1 transition. REBRG is crossed at my assigned FL (FL370 in this case) and there are various lower crossing altitudes along the star.