OnCourse Software

Hi. I am only trying out the demo so I have very few voice sets at my disposal to test. Can I therefore ask whether the 119 voice sets (was that the number?) are the same as those in PFE or have they been edited at all? My main gripe with the voices in PFE (one gripe against dozens of positive impressions!) was that phrases, words and even individual syllables in longer words seemed to have been recorded in completely difference ambiences and at different volumes - and with stero speakers syallables even seem to come at you from different directions! The 'mosaic'/'patchwork' effect is very weird and I've never really got used to it (as I have completely, for example, with ATC & pilots using ICAO codes rather than airport names). The pilots are far more likely to have this issue than the ATC voices for some reason. I realise that that situation was inherited by OnCourse, but I wonder if any 'cleaning up' has been attempted?

There were also voice sets that (on my PC at least) came over full, bass-rich and 'plummy' whilst others came from so far away that I could not hear them at all (so I started using Remote Text!). I tried to batch edit some of the most extreme ones, but as Dave M wrote to me - things were so set up in PFE that the programme no longer recognised the wav files as valid. Has any 'normalisation' been attempted across the voice sets in the full version?

Not a deal breaker maybe, but I am trying to talk myself into spending the cash (not a good time at the moment, but that's my problem of course!), so as many positives as possible would help!

Thanks..

Martin

In the early days PFE on had the 44 voice sets that were shipped with PF2K. In V2 we introduced an expanded (vocabulary) set of some 60 voice sets. In PF3 there are none of the original PF2K voice sets and the 60 voice sets from the V3 expanded voice sets is included as standard, together with an additional 59 new voice sets, giving the toal of 119.

You won't like all 119 of them but at least you have the option to disable those you don't like

Thanks for the reply. I only ever used the new voice sets in PFE never the originals, but never really got round to identifying and then exclude individual sets (though I can see that the latter at least is straight forward). Just a few were pretty bad vis-a-vis the problem I noted above, so if they occur in PF3, I need to do the necessary and exclude them., yes.

BTW, I think the batch editing I referred to above was with FDC voice sets, not PFE, but no matter.

Probably go ahead today and make the purchase of PF3

Martin

I wish serious PF3 users could make their own voice sets and share with the community. That way there would be lots to choose from with accents from all over the world.

MaVe_64 wrote:

I wish serious PF3 users could make their own voice sets and share with the community. That way there would be lots to choose from with accents from all over the world.

That's what Pro Atc does. BUT there needs to be strict quality control otherwise you will get a lot of inconsistencies and inaccuracies which plague that ATC programme. 119 voices are enough don't you think? And they are already from all over the World.

If it were possible, it would be good. There is a good selection of voices from some parts of the world, but few Asian (Japanese, Indian) for example.

Just to check - all voice sets possible are installed by default at PF3 setup, right? (Someone said, somewhere in this forum, that they were happy you could install the extra purchased PFE voice sets into PF3. As far as I understand, they come with the programme anyway, don't they?).

I have 44 folders in my PF3 wav folder. The 119 sets are taken somehow from those 44 folders then, or do I have some files/folders missing?

Yes to everything

vololiberista wrote:

MaVe_64 wrote:

I wish serious PF3 users could make their own voice sets and share with the community. That way there would be lots to choose from with accents from all over the world.

That's what Pro Atc does. BUT there needs to be strict quality control otherwise you will get a lot of inconsistencies and inaccuracies which plague that ATC programme. 119 voices are enough don't you think? And they are already from all over the World.

Yeah, but I understand that alot of them are inconsistent and inaccurate already (see post above), so you could replace these.
Maybe I'll so some editing to make them better and change some good ones from male to female or so. I like fooling around with sound files
If anyone wants better AI aircraft sounds for instance check out my work https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxAMOG6P8gQ

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martinlest wrote:

Just to check - all voice sets possible are installed by default at PF3 setup, right? (Someone said, somewhere in this forum, that they were happy you could install the extra purchased PFE voice sets into PF3. As far as I understand, they come with the programme anyway, don't they?).

I have 44 folders in my PF3 wav folder. The 119 sets are taken somehow from those 44 folders then, or do I have some files/folders missing?

You have "all" the voices. There are no additional voice packs.