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vololiberista
Post subject: Re: PF3 First Flight - A Disaster
Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:34 pm
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Dan77 wrote:
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Dave, I suggest that PF3 should not create XXX waypoints between the last user waypoint and the destination, even if they should have been there. Optionally warn the user about the last waypoint being too far away from the destination.
I think the former (eliminating the XXX waypoint) may not be a good idea because this in effect changes the control sector of the destination airport. A sector handoff should occur if the sector boundary is crossed. Perhaps a warning could be issued if the last waypoint is too far away, as you say. A better flight plan would help.
I concur as I have been able to produce a workable fpl see my post above. (last post on page 2)

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vololiberista wrote:
Dan77 wrote:
ThomasAH wrote:
Dave, I suggest that PF3 should not create XXX waypoints between the last user waypoint and the destination, even if they should have been there. Optionally warn the user about the last waypoint being too far away from the destination.
I think the former (eliminating the XXX waypoint) may not be a good idea because this in effect changes the control sector of the destination airport. A sector handoff should occur if the sector boundary is crossed. Perhaps a warning could be issued if the last waypoint is too far away, as you say. A better flight plan would help.
I concur as I have been able to produce a workable fpl see my post above. (last post on page 2)
XXX entries NEVER appear after the last waypoint if IT is at or above the control centre handover altitude, which really your last waypoint shouldnt be.

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dmarch wrote:
XXX entries NEVER appear after the last waypoint if IT is at or above the control centre handover altitude, which really your last waypoint shouldnt be.
I've yet to see a properly constructed fpl in PF3 that does Dave. And it isn't the case in this example.

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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 7:07 pm
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ThomasAH wrote:
Dave, I suggest that PF3 should not create XXX waypoints between the last user waypoint and the destination, even if they should have been there. Optionally warn the user about the last waypoint being too far away from the destination.
dmarch wrote:
XXX entries NEVER appear after the last waypoint if IT is at or above the control centre handover altitude, which really your last waypoint shouldnt be.
I think we all agree that the flight plan is not good, but if you load it (it is included in the Logs.zip on page 1), PF3 does not complain and automatically generates this:

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ThomasAH wrote:
ThomasAH wrote:
Dave, I suggest that PF3 should not create XXX waypoints between the last user waypoint and the destination, even if they should have been there. Optionally warn the user about the last waypoint being too far away from the destination.
dmarch wrote:
XXX entries NEVER appear after the last waypoint if IT is at or above the control centre handover altitude, which really your last waypoint shouldnt be.
I think we all agree that the flight plan is not good, but if you load it (it is included in the Logs.zip on page 1), PF3 does not complain and automatically generates this:
That will get you from A to B at least

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