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mllgrennman
Post subject: Bad altitude vector
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:33 am
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Hi...I just did a flight to mexico city...the ATC instructed me to descend to 5000 ft...but the airport is 7000 feet AGL...I don't like to go against given vectors but I would have crashed... :?


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ThomasAH
Post subject: Re: Bad altitude vector
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:34 am
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mllgrennman wrote:
ATC instructed me to descend to 5000 ft...but the airport is 7000 feet AGL
No problem, just pass below the airport and make an Immelmann turn to final :)

If for some weird reason you do not want this, you can follow dmarch's advisory from an older thread:
dmarch wrote:
You can set the FAF for individual airports so atc Will not tell you to descend below that altitude

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mllgrennman
Post subject: Re: Bad altitude vector
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:42 am
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More preflight programming :cry:
Would default ATC have done the same thing...or is it a PFE limitation...
Thanks for the info...


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ThomasAH
Post subject: Re: Bad altitude vector
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:39 pm
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mllgrennman wrote:
More preflight programming :cry:
Think of it as the preparations a real pilot has to do, too, so it is part of the simulation.
mllgrennman wrote:
Would default ATC have done the same thing...or is it a PFE limitation...
I wouldn't call the default ATC sane and I don't know if it would handle this situation any better.
Both, the default ATC and PFE, do not have access to the approach charts, but maybe the default ATC has a better estimate?
I'd recommend using the charts, e.g. the first page of http://www.uvairlines.com/admin/resourc ... s/MMMX.pdf

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mllgrennman
Post subject: Re: Bad altitude vector
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:45 pm
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Between Fs2crew, Fs passengers, High end aircraft with realistic FMC, Active Sky and PFE...I'm pretty much satisfied with simulating prefight workload!
I think the default ATC never messed me up this bad though...so I would call it a PFE flaw...thanks for the info...


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pschlute
Post subject: Re: Bad altitude vector
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 8:23 pm
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Default ATC would be just as bad.

But have you ever tried telling default ATC you want a limit on the FAF altitude ?

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mllgrennman
Post subject: Re: Bad altitude vector
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 8:31 pm
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pschlute wrote:
Default ATC would be just as bad.

But have you ever tried telling default ATC you want a limit on the FAF altitude ?
I never had too...as bare as it was it never it ran me into the ground...this program is killer but very labor intensive...


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pschlute
Post subject: Re: Bad altitude vector
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:45 pm
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mllgrennman wrote:
pschlute wrote:
Default ATC would be just as bad.

But have you ever tried telling default ATC you want a limit on the FAF altitude ?
I never had too...as bare as it was it never it ran me into the ground...this program is killer but very labor intensive...
Neither default ATC nor PFE will run you into the ground if your airport is about sea level and not surrounded by mountains. Th point I was trying to make is that with PFE if you choose an airport that is at altitude or has challenging terrain you have the ability to let the program know.

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mllgrennman
Post subject: Re: Bad altitude vector
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:48 pm
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Yeah this was Mexico city which is an uncommon and challenging AP due to elevation...let me not complain too much...the CP features saves me tons of work and is just plain cool...thanks...


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mllgrennman
Post subject: Re: Bad altitude vector
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 12:49 am
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im having more altitude issues...ill start a new post...thanks again...


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